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<blockquote data-quote="Simplicity" data-source="post: 1113999" data-attributes="member: 1496">Hijack Time!&nbsp; You phrase this all as a what-if...&nbsp; You do realize that the government has already repealled illegal search and seizure for terrorists?&nbsp; Illegal search and seizure laws all depend on how you define illegal.&nbsp; What used to constitute an illegal search (a search conducted without a warrant) is now available to the US government for use on terrorists through the use of FISA 'warrants'.&nbsp; The Justice Department goes to a secret court, gets a secret warrant without providing probable cause (note that the application for a FISA warrant has NEVER been denied), and then can conduct a search without even informing the person who owns the property.&nbsp; But they can &quot;only&quot; do this if national security is involved.&nbsp; What used to constitute illegal seizure (seizure of property outside of fees and illegal items) is now available to the US government for use on terrorists, organized crime, drug dealers, and pornographers (yes, you read the last one right) through the RICO act.&nbsp; The act lets the government seize not just illegal material like drugs, guns, etc.&nbsp; But also lets them take the house, boat, car, warehouse, factory, etc. of whatever individual or organization the government deems part of a &quot;corrupt organization&quot; (that's the CO in RICO).&nbsp; Selling the property obtained in this manner has become quite a cashcow for our government.I think I saw an article on CNN today about the current administration seeking to expand the laws of the war on terror to the war on drugs.&nbsp; I'm sure they would be all too happy to begin a war on indecency as well.I'll shut up about this now, because I know politics are not the purpose of these boards, but the what-if scenario just threw me a bit...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simplicity, post: 1113999, member: 1496"] Hijack Time! You phrase this all as a what-if... You do realize that the government has already repealled illegal search and seizure for terrorists? Illegal search and seizure laws all depend on how you define illegal. What used to constitute an illegal search (a search conducted without a warrant) is now available to the US government for use on terrorists through the use of FISA 'warrants'. The Justice Department goes to a secret court, gets a secret warrant without providing probable cause (note that the application for a FISA warrant has NEVER been denied), and then can conduct a search without even informing the person who owns the property. But they can "only" do this if national security is involved. What used to constitute illegal seizure (seizure of property outside of fees and illegal items) is now available to the US government for use on terrorists, organized crime, drug dealers, and pornographers (yes, you read the last one right) through the RICO act. The act lets the government seize not just illegal material like drugs, guns, etc. But also lets them take the house, boat, car, warehouse, factory, etc. of whatever individual or organization the government deems part of a "corrupt organization" (that's the CO in RICO). Selling the property obtained in this manner has become quite a cashcow for our government. I think I saw an article on CNN today about the current administration seeking to expand the laws of the war on terror to the war on drugs. I'm sure they would be all too happy to begin a war on indecency as well. I'll shut up about this now, because I know politics are not the purpose of these boards, but the what-if scenario just threw me a bit... [/QUOTE]

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