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<blockquote data-quote="seankreynolds" data-source="post: 1115185" data-attributes="member: 3029"><p>I'll have to disagree with you there. If those are toeing the line of pornography, then so is the National Geographic Swimsuit issue they released this summer, or any National Geographic issue that contains people in the nude, or the X-Men Summer Swimsuit issue that Marvel released a few years ago.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not so, because that would include National Geographic, the Kama Sutra, and The Joy of Sex. None of those are porn, else Waldenbooks stores across the country would be being raided by the police for selling porn (Waldenbooks sells all three of the above, as well as magazines such as Playboy and others which contain nudity and would be porn by your definition but not by the common or legal definition).</p><p></p><p>Dictionary.com defines the word pornography as: "Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal."</p><p></p><p>The law.com dictionary defines it as "pictures and/or writings of sexual activity intended solely to excite lascivious feelings of a particularly blatant and aberrational kind, such as acts involving children, animals, orgies, and all types of sexual intercourse." (See also their definition of obscene, "a highly subjective reference to material or acts which display or describe sexual activity in a manner appealing only to 'prurient interest,' with no legitimate artistic, literary or scientific purpose.")</p><p></p><p>Please use legal definitions of words rather than your own definitions. Don't "pull a Jaros," as it were (Steve Jaros is this guy on rec.games.frp.dnd who used to get into arguments with other posters and fall back on his defense of "the dictionary doesn't define what words mean, people do, so don't use the dictionary definition of words against me when I say something"). Unless we're using a common definition of our words, we can't have a rational argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seankreynolds, post: 1115185, member: 3029"] I'll have to disagree with you there. If those are toeing the line of pornography, then so is the National Geographic Swimsuit issue they released this summer, or any National Geographic issue that contains people in the nude, or the X-Men Summer Swimsuit issue that Marvel released a few years ago. Not so, because that would include National Geographic, the Kama Sutra, and The Joy of Sex. None of those are porn, else Waldenbooks stores across the country would be being raided by the police for selling porn (Waldenbooks sells all three of the above, as well as magazines such as Playboy and others which contain nudity and would be porn by your definition but not by the common or legal definition). Dictionary.com defines the word pornography as: "Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal." The law.com dictionary defines it as "pictures and/or writings of sexual activity intended solely to excite lascivious feelings of a particularly blatant and aberrational kind, such as acts involving children, animals, orgies, and all types of sexual intercourse." (See also their definition of obscene, "a highly subjective reference to material or acts which display or describe sexual activity in a manner appealing only to 'prurient interest,' with no legitimate artistic, literary or scientific purpose.") Please use legal definitions of words rather than your own definitions. Don't "pull a Jaros," as it were (Steve Jaros is this guy on rec.games.frp.dnd who used to get into arguments with other posters and fall back on his defense of "the dictionary doesn't define what words mean, people do, so don't use the dictionary definition of words against me when I say something"). Unless we're using a common definition of our words, we can't have a rational argument. [/QUOTE]
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