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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 1115376" data-attributes="member: 5724">I'm sorry if that's how you interpreted what I said. I was simply pointing out that Mr. Valterra knew of the coming change, knew what was going to be changed, and knew the reason behind the change. No matter how much he disaggreed with the change, and in this I think we agree, the change is stupid, I find his use of another's trademark to promote a work that the owner of the trademark doesn't want promoted, and who is taking explicit legal recourse to prevent such material, questionable.No matter what they are, or become, the trademark is theirs. The only reason why anyone else can use it is that it promotes their products. The entire purpose of the trademark is to sell more players handbooks. Mr. Valterra's deliberate use of their trademark in a manner in which they were in the steps of preventing, and of which he had full knowledge of, shows a lack of respect to WotC.Basically, he wanted to get his book of sexual material out and make additional profit off using another's trademark with the foreknowledge that the owners of the trademark were trying explictly to prevent such sexual materials being put out under their trademark. No matter what you call it, that's a lack of respect, and it lets me know that Mr. Valterra is willing to be disrespectful of WotC to increase profitablity, for there is no other reason to include the d20 system logo except to increase profitability. That is the purpose of the logo.Everyone knew he was pushing the d20 license into areas that were potentially unwanted by WotC when he announced his product. Now we know he was doing exactly what they didn't want, and unlike other publishers working on/releasing sexual material, he had explict information that what he was doing was not what WotC wanted for their trademark.And please don't take my criticism of Mr. Valterra as a personal shot. I admire him for what he has done for the d20 license and his efforts to try and stop the idiocy that they're doing now. I don't admire him for his actions after losing that fight and his creation/promotion of his new product. But that is his business, and I expect him to do what he thinks best for his own interest.joe b.</blockquote>

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