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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 1115584" data-attributes="member: 5724">Of course they're not going to be rolling in the dough.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I know for certain if the main goal of all the d20 publishers was to make money, they would have chosen another business. We all do this because we love the fact that we can do what we like doing and make some money off of it.  A few, very lucky people have gotten rich, but generally getting rich is, as you said a stupid thing to hope for.Firstly, I never said whatever WotC does is fine, so please don't try to straw man me. I think that if someone does me wrong, I don't have the right to do wrong to them. I think WotC is being massively, terribly, stupid with this change, and I bet my booties that Mr. Valterra tried his damndest to stop them from being idiots.For me operating legally doesn't mean operating ethically, nor vice versa. If someone is unethical to me, I'm not going to be unethical back. I kinda view it like the OGL concept: everyone comes out ahead if people co-operate.The main reason why I'm as upset as I am, is that I would have preffered that the BoEF was the thing that caused WotC to be idiots as opposed to it being something that had been planned for a long time. I also wish that Mr. Valterra had slated the BoEF as an OGL product from the get-go, knowing what I know now. I still have a very high opinion of him, I'm just saddened at what I perceive as a possible tit-for-tat relationship. Bluntly, using someone's trademark the way they don't want it to be used is rude. Conversely, what WotC is doing is rude. Rude and stupid in the long run.I'm surprised that WotC didn't escalate the issue and force Mr. Valterra to pulp his books after they were out. They could have been meaner. Thankfully, it didn't come to that. Unfortunately, I feel this adversarial relationship may make it more difficult for the rest of us to publish. Sometimes you just feel the need to say, "Play nice."joe b.</blockquote>

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