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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunglar" data-source="post: 4475676" data-attributes="member: 854">Hello all, just chiming in to give back my two cents on the thread. Let’s see what you’ve said so far since I last posted…Milambus, I downloaded Obsidian’s skill challenge system. And will give it a read. The two-weapon build sounds interesting. I’m currently running a very vanilla, as is POL campaign in my own barebones homebrew that integrates all the D&D 4th Ed conceits, and by the look of it it may run all the way to December so we will have the martial book in hand when we play.Mustrum Ridcully, I really like this idea you and Kordeth suggested. I will repurpose armors like you and others have suggested. I’m currently doing image searches for renaissance style armor and plan on making a new list with images to illustrate the “new” armors. For some reason I would love to keep traditional “fantasy” armors like we have in the PHB and the more renaissance / pirate armors since the world has areas where both will be present. IS it anachronistic, may it go against plausibility, yes! But the campaign has its own internal history and rationalization, again with having the cake and eating it too…Roger, despite having read the book and using it weekly I had not really internalized how small the penalty is. I realize its there to make it workable and not make the plate wearing fighter sink immediately. So using it as is may actually be the way to go. But I plan on repurposing or re-describing the armor so it works so the players can “suspend their disbelief” as much as that is needed in a fantasy campaign!VenezuelanWiz, you and Kordeth, mention that fact that by making Int and Dex more important I will be penalizing the Defenders I had not considered this, so thanks! I guess that is why repurposing the armors IS the best bet. I really enjoy this discussion because many of you analyze the rules more thoroughly and point out things that may take me some sessions to realize. I am enthralled by the story and the ploats I’m weaving and how the characters stories and ideas merge into this and I’m easily distracted away from the rules.epochrog, thank you for the ideas. I realize there may be other systems that emulate the swashbuckling genre better, but I am a sucker for D&D. I’ve played it in all its incarnations since I started playing in 86. You make and interesting point about the bastard swords, which may be a switch. Is that Brutal feature the one I seen to recall reading about from AV? I never managed to pick up my copy from the post office; it will have to wait until Monday. I realize that having these type of guns shoot only once per combat is realistic but for some reason its not very “cinematic” (sorry to drag THAT into the conversation) and I think that if I use guns I would certainly like them to be slower to reload, but not so much so that they become one use items. And on a TOTALLY not related note, epochrpg, I just purchased Sci-Fi Bash last week and I’m readying it and enjoying it… Back to the thread at hand!WalterKovacs you also mention repurposing the armors and waiting for the Martial book. I’m not sure I understand every point you make about guns in your post… I know you are making comments on the previous gun suggestions. I THINK I may get it but would you care to elaborate. Just making sure I get your point… Gee I do feel obtuse today!DracoSuave, sorry to ask but does the nickname have anything to do with the old song Rico Suave? Sorry if it sounds offensive, its just that when I read your nickname I see a Dragonborn prancing around with a half unbuttoned shirt singing Draco… SUAVE!!! I kid you! (No offence meant I assure you!!!)ValhallaGH, I’ll have to read that right away! I also like the idea of guns targeting REF but want to make sure it doesn’t get wonky with all the options out there…Anguirus that was a great example… Would you care to elaborate and tell us more?Walknot I agree this thread is really a lot of fun. It’s helping me shape the future of my campaign and how it will work. I feel more confident that I can run a pirate campaign using 4th Ed than when I wrote the first post!Hope everyone is having a FUN weekend. I’ll be back soon to keep on readying/posting. LATER! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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