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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7907835" data-attributes="member: 6966824">In this example, the AoE did 3N damage in total, and knocked off two enemy turns, compared to that character doing nothing. A useful comparison would be to look at the number of enemy turns if the caster instead were able to contribute 3N damage to a single target (but only once).In round 1, the party does 5N damage, killing the first enemy and knocking the second down to 3N. In round 2 the party gets the second enemy down to N. Round 3, kills that one, third enemy to 3N. Round 4, down to N; Round 5, kills the last enemy.3+2+2+1+1 = 9 enemy turnsSo in that case the difference between the AoE and doing the same total damage but to a single target was a reduction by 3 enemy turns instead of 2, meaning the single target damage would have been 50% more impactful simply by being single target. Equivalently, the AoE damage was 2/3 as impactful per point as single target damage.That actually works out exactly to [USER=72555]@NotAYakk[/USER] 's 50% discount rate on damage to targets after the first: You're getting N + (0.5)N + (0.5)N = 2N value out of your diffuse 3N damage.Checking some more combinations would be helpful to see how well that holds up...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7907835, member: 6966824"] In this example, the AoE did 3N damage in total, and knocked off two enemy turns, compared to that character doing nothing. A useful comparison would be to look at the number of enemy turns if the caster instead were able to contribute 3N damage to a single target (but only once). In round 1, the party does 5N damage, killing the first enemy and knocking the second down to 3N. In round 2 the party gets the second enemy down to N. Round 3, kills that one, third enemy to 3N. Round 4, down to N; Round 5, kills the last enemy. 3+2+2+1+1 = 9 enemy turns So in that case the difference between the AoE and doing the same total damage but to a single target was a reduction by 3 enemy turns instead of 2, meaning the single target damage would have been 50% more impactful simply by being single target. Equivalently, the AoE damage was 2/3 as impactful per point as single target damage. That actually works out exactly to [USER=72555]@NotAYakk[/USER] 's 50% discount rate on damage to targets after the first: You're getting N + (0.5)N + (0.5)N = 2N value out of your diffuse 3N damage. Checking some more combinations would be helpful to see how well that holds up... [/QUOTE]

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