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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7928075" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>It most closely resembles the 2e multiverse, but there are exceptions.</p><p>-It includes the 4e Feywild, Shadowfell, and Elemental Chaos</p><p>-It includes the Border Elemental Planes and moves some traditional sites from the deeper Elemental Planes into the Border regions. (I don't consider it a big deal to assume those sites sort of sit on line between the Border and deeper parts of the plane, especially since the art has always shown the City of Brass as something you can see from far away, even though the official rules of the Elemental Plane of Fire would cause your vision to obscured by smoke within a few dozen feet.)</p><p>-It leaves out the para-elemental and quasi-elemental planes (they haven't been seen at all since 2e--why the hate?) Certain regions of the Border Elemental Planes have similar names, but they aren't the same thing, and in some places the names wouldn't correspond to the traditional adjacent planes location. That said, it doesn't say that there <em>aren't</em> any para or quasi-elemental planes. It emphasizes the Border regions and says the deeper regions exist, but doesn't give many details about them.</p><p>-It moves the Positive and Negative Planes out of the Inner Planes to their own place on the wheel (possibly why they didn't do the quasi-elemental planes). Also, depending on how you interpret the two diagrams, it may be creating a proximity between the Negative and the Lower Planes and the Positive and the Upper Planes.</p><p>-It doesn't explicitly connect Demiplanes with the Ethereal Plane.</p><p>-It doesn't allow you to move back and forth between the Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal Plane, for some unknown reason (it used to be an action to do so, and I still run it that way).</p><p>-Bafflingly, it doesn't treat the Outlands as an Outer Plane at all, but as its own thing.</p><p></p><p>By contrast with 3e's Great Wheel (which was close, but a bit different), it removes the Astral Plane as the universal highway, and returns the Deep Ethereal Plane as a plane between the Material (and now its shadows) and the Inner (now just Elemental) Planes.</p><p></p><p>Also, contrary to popular belief (and I think one of the designers may even have tweeted wrong on this), Ravenloft is its own demiplane again--or at least the domains within it are demiplanes (it's not much of a stretch to interpret them as nested demi-demi-planes inside of Ravenloft). It is "easy to reach" them through the Shadowfell, but they are not specifically placed <em>within</em> the Shadowfell. This leaves it open to interpret them as existing within the Ethereal Plane, the Shadowfell, or neither.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7928075, member: 6677017"] It most closely resembles the 2e multiverse, but there are exceptions. -It includes the 4e Feywild, Shadowfell, and Elemental Chaos -It includes the Border Elemental Planes and moves some traditional sites from the deeper Elemental Planes into the Border regions. (I don't consider it a big deal to assume those sites sort of sit on line between the Border and deeper parts of the plane, especially since the art has always shown the City of Brass as something you can see from far away, even though the official rules of the Elemental Plane of Fire would cause your vision to obscured by smoke within a few dozen feet.) -It leaves out the para-elemental and quasi-elemental planes (they haven't been seen at all since 2e--why the hate?) Certain regions of the Border Elemental Planes have similar names, but they aren't the same thing, and in some places the names wouldn't correspond to the traditional adjacent planes location. That said, it doesn't say that there [I]aren't[/I] any para or quasi-elemental planes. It emphasizes the Border regions and says the deeper regions exist, but doesn't give many details about them. -It moves the Positive and Negative Planes out of the Inner Planes to their own place on the wheel (possibly why they didn't do the quasi-elemental planes). Also, depending on how you interpret the two diagrams, it may be creating a proximity between the Negative and the Lower Planes and the Positive and the Upper Planes. -It doesn't explicitly connect Demiplanes with the Ethereal Plane. -It doesn't allow you to move back and forth between the Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal Plane, for some unknown reason (it used to be an action to do so, and I still run it that way). -Bafflingly, it doesn't treat the Outlands as an Outer Plane at all, but as its own thing. By contrast with 3e's Great Wheel (which was close, but a bit different), it removes the Astral Plane as the universal highway, and returns the Deep Ethereal Plane as a plane between the Material (and now its shadows) and the Inner (now just Elemental) Planes. Also, contrary to popular belief (and I think one of the designers may even have tweeted wrong on this), Ravenloft is its own demiplane again--or at least the domains within it are demiplanes (it's not much of a stretch to interpret them as nested demi-demi-planes inside of Ravenloft). It is "easy to reach" them through the Shadowfell, but they are not specifically placed [I]within[/I] the Shadowfell. This leaves it open to interpret them as existing within the Ethereal Plane, the Shadowfell, or neither. [/QUOTE]
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