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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7144444" data-attributes="member: 82504">I have only actually seen the second show of that I know I am terrible... Chi use is nominally tapping in to that heroic extreme life force concept and not seen as being divine.  Possibly related to that divine element I have been reading where they had to differentiate heroic outside the law types vs crime syndicate in the linguistics associate with Wuxia and in the process transformed chivalric into divine.See here is my trick -  I see the Paladin as quite Martial  (very old fashioned of me) with a few oath bound boons and for Lancelot possibly grandmaster trainings. I think the best way to give Cuh Culaine his daemonic transform is a legendary boon. CC is another oath bound hero, very much based on learning his feats (the story had a lot of fun with him seeking out teachers and doing better than them at their own arts) with a more "4e Barbarian" fighting style. This type of hero had  a lot of manifestations ... Samson (brawling fighter lightly armored I suspect), Lancelot (weapons master in plate) and CC (mobile barbaric possibly even naked).And interesting correlation each arguably engaged in Berserkergang and were arguably blessed/cursed by their source and based on oaths.Even ignoring the oath elementsThese characters also have magical bloodlines or heritage Lancelots being the Joseph of Arimethea thing. CuCulaine being the child of Lugh Lamfada of the Tuatha de Danaan (who was half Fir Bolg arguably both Fae and Giant Blood) . In fact every Arthurian Main Player also has these extraordinary blood lines. Wizards had it too with Merlin being Daemonic. Morganna and Gawaine(also Gaheris and Gareth) being Fae either by oath or birth.Bloodlines seem to be in 4e land the province of FeatsI am fine with the core class being Martial with whichever add ons... and given your HoML yeah.But back to martial artists... For me the Dragon ball Z fans need a Ki based waves which scale very nicely and are derived from expending healing surges / potentially with CON as the dominant attribute with a Wis kicker available as a Grandmaster Trainings. In function this could be added to any base class but I think would  fit the best for rather Martial Classes. (mayhaps some Con-locks too)</blockquote>

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