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<blockquote data-quote="AuraSeer" data-source="post: 272832" data-attributes="member: 1331"><p>I concur; unless their tactics are spectacularly bad, the army will roll over the PCs without much trouble.</p><p></p><p>I recently ran a single Wiz15 (plus a template) versus five 11th-level characters. The wizard mopped the floor with them, and only a massive stroke of good luck allowed the party to survive. Since you're adding a high-level fighter and the infantry mass, I think you'll need a squeegee to recover your PCs' bodies.</p><p></p><p>Caveat: this assumes a standard campaign balance, and smart enemies. If you just have the villains charge in blindly (which many DMs seem to do), the PCs may defeat them through superior tactics. If your campaign has a Monty Haul flavor, superior magic items could save the day. Otherwise, assuming you've told the whole story, your PCs should be toast.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, if the baddies were <u>really</u> smart, this whole army would just be a diversion. The fighter and wizard would show up while the PCs were still occupied with the peons, so as to cause maximum distraction. Meanwhile, an invisible high-level rogue would slip past the battle and sneak attack one of the concentrating wizards. Poof bang, no more epic spell. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AuraSeer, post: 272832, member: 1331"] I concur; unless their tactics are spectacularly bad, the army will roll over the PCs without much trouble. I recently ran a single Wiz15 (plus a template) versus five 11th-level characters. The wizard mopped the floor with them, and only a massive stroke of good luck allowed the party to survive. Since you're adding a high-level fighter and the infantry mass, I think you'll need a squeegee to recover your PCs' bodies. Caveat: this assumes a standard campaign balance, and smart enemies. If you just have the villains charge in blindly (which many DMs seem to do), the PCs may defeat them through superior tactics. If your campaign has a Monty Haul flavor, superior magic items could save the day. Otherwise, assuming you've told the whole story, your PCs should be toast. Anyway, if the baddies were [u]really[/u] smart, this whole army would just be a diversion. The fighter and wizard would show up while the PCs were still occupied with the peons, so as to cause maximum distraction. Meanwhile, an invisible high-level rogue would slip past the battle and sneak attack one of the concentrating wizards. Poof bang, no more epic spell. ;) [/QUOTE]
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