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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 124954" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Nail:</p><p></p><p>The book value does not work.... was refering to using book value of items to calulate total of character power.</p><p></p><p>It does not work because of the item creation rules. What does work is:</p><p></p><p>Total money + total book value of all items NOT made by you + 1/2 book value of all magic items made by you.</p><p></p><p>In all cases reduce the value of charged items proportionally according the the number of charges remaining.</p><p></p><p>This works if you buy into the assumption that the power increase of self-made items is balanced by the experience cost (this seems to not be entirely true, but that deos seem to be the by-the-book assumption).</p><p></p><p>This gives you a way to measure character power against another character, which I think was the idea behind the orignal post.</p><p></p><p>As an aside, if you really want a good comparison, you have to do two additional things:</p><p></p><p>1. Adjust money by how far along you are towards the next level (as Anubis pointed out).</p><p>2. Adjust experience points by taking the total value of all self-made items and dviding bgy 25 and add that to the exp pts for comparison purposes. </p><p></p><p>An example is in order, I think.</p><p></p><p>Let's take 2 character and compare them to see if they have the same "power" per the wealth chart.</p><p></p><p>Character 1 is a 10th lvl Fighter (45,000 exp. pts.) with a total value of gold, mundane and magic items of 50,000 gp.</p><p></p><p>Character 2 is a 9th level Wizard (44,600 exp. pts.) with a total value of gold, mundane and magical items as follows:</p><p></p><p>5,000 cash</p><p>5,000 mundane items (I don't know - he owns a house, okay?)</p><p>30,000 found and purchases magic items</p><p>20,000 (book value) self-made magic items.</p><p></p><p>Total value for comparison = 5K + 5K + 3K + 1/2 (20K) = 50K </p><p></p><p>Adjusted exp. pts. for comparison = 44,600 + 20,000/25 = 45,000</p><p></p><p>So they coth come in at 45,000 exp. pts. and 50,000 gp - which they should, because that's what I started them with to create them.</p><p></p><p>So you see why you need to use 1/2 value of created items. The experience point calculation is not really needed in most cases - only if you are trying to find out where they would have been without creating any items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 124954, member: 111"] Nail: The book value does not work.... was refering to using book value of items to calulate total of character power. It does not work because of the item creation rules. What does work is: Total money + total book value of all items NOT made by you + 1/2 book value of all magic items made by you. In all cases reduce the value of charged items proportionally according the the number of charges remaining. This works if you buy into the assumption that the power increase of self-made items is balanced by the experience cost (this seems to not be entirely true, but that deos seem to be the by-the-book assumption). This gives you a way to measure character power against another character, which I think was the idea behind the orignal post. As an aside, if you really want a good comparison, you have to do two additional things: 1. Adjust money by how far along you are towards the next level (as Anubis pointed out). 2. Adjust experience points by taking the total value of all self-made items and dviding bgy 25 and add that to the exp pts for comparison purposes. An example is in order, I think. Let's take 2 character and compare them to see if they have the same "power" per the wealth chart. Character 1 is a 10th lvl Fighter (45,000 exp. pts.) with a total value of gold, mundane and magic items of 50,000 gp. Character 2 is a 9th level Wizard (44,600 exp. pts.) with a total value of gold, mundane and magical items as follows: 5,000 cash 5,000 mundane items (I don't know - he owns a house, okay?) 30,000 found and purchases magic items 20,000 (book value) self-made magic items. Total value for comparison = 5K + 5K + 3K + 1/2 (20K) = 50K Adjusted exp. pts. for comparison = 44,600 + 20,000/25 = 45,000 So they coth come in at 45,000 exp. pts. and 50,000 gp - which they should, because that's what I started them with to create them. So you see why you need to use 1/2 value of created items. The experience point calculation is not really needed in most cases - only if you are trying to find out where they would have been without creating any items. [/QUOTE]
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