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<blockquote data-quote="fabled" data-source="post: 5683752" data-attributes="member: 6682540"><p>Hello folks!</p><p></p><p>I've got a question to share that goes for ruling attack of opportunities in D&D 3.5 combat. There's a feat in Complete Scoundrel called Conceal Spellcasting - it allows you to cast spells unnoticed as long as you win opposed Sleight of hand vs. Spot check. Success in this means also not getting AoO from casting the spell either.</p><p></p><p>In text reads: <em>"That observer cannot make an attack of opportunity against you for casting, nor can it attempt to counter your spell."</em></p><p></p><p>So, my question goes: are you still vulnerable to AoO's from things like moving out of combat and taking actions before or after it (so, casting the spell) or is your opponent supposed to think that you are not doing anyhting as he doesn't spot the spell.</p><p></p><p>Don't know about you guys, but for me the text seems bit open for questioning and I guess ruling for it be different under some DM's. For me it sounds like you don't get provoked when you start casting the spell - but you still have to take the action (cast the spell), so when you decide to move you still had taken (or are about to take) that action (cast the spell) and provoke AoO's from those situations normally, or? Still, logically thinkin it sounds a bit stupid, but on the other hand making it work other way it sounds bit powerful to me for a single feat (as it would, in addition do the stuff much like of defensive casting or tumble skill).</p><p></p><p>It is possible, though that I've missed something so give me your thoughts about the rules of AoO's considering given situation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fabled, post: 5683752, member: 6682540"] Hello folks! I've got a question to share that goes for ruling attack of opportunities in D&D 3.5 combat. There's a feat in Complete Scoundrel called Conceal Spellcasting - it allows you to cast spells unnoticed as long as you win opposed Sleight of hand vs. Spot check. Success in this means also not getting AoO from casting the spell either. In text reads: [I]"That observer cannot make an attack of opportunity against you for casting, nor can it attempt to counter your spell."[/I] So, my question goes: are you still vulnerable to AoO's from things like moving out of combat and taking actions before or after it (so, casting the spell) or is your opponent supposed to think that you are not doing anyhting as he doesn't spot the spell. Don't know about you guys, but for me the text seems bit open for questioning and I guess ruling for it be different under some DM's. For me it sounds like you don't get provoked when you start casting the spell - but you still have to take the action (cast the spell), so when you decide to move you still had taken (or are about to take) that action (cast the spell) and provoke AoO's from those situations normally, or? Still, logically thinkin it sounds a bit stupid, but on the other hand making it work other way it sounds bit powerful to me for a single feat (as it would, in addition do the stuff much like of defensive casting or tumble skill). It is possible, though that I've missed something so give me your thoughts about the rules of AoO's considering given situation. :) [/QUOTE]
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