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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6046240" data-attributes="member: 6669384">First, to be up front, I don't currently play 4e.&nbsp; I have on the past, but it's not my group's preferred system.My question has to with items that are listed a &quot;Daily Use&quot;.&nbsp; As I understand it, a given character has a limited number of times they can activate &quot;1 per day&quot; items.&nbsp; At the same time, the item has a limit of how often they can be activated:&nbsp; Once per day.&nbsp; Limiting both sides of this makes sense, since a PC could acquire a stack of the same item and blitz an encounter with item powers that are limited to maintain balance.So my question has to do with items like the Restful Bedroll, or the instant campsite:Items like these are made to give convenience level advantages to individuals or groups, as opposed to being things used in encounters.The problem is that these are Daily Use items.&nbsp; The bedroll lets one person get the benefits of a full night's sleep after only two hours.&nbsp; You're not supposed to let people use it in shifts.But if you use it, it uses up one of your &quot;once a day&quot; item uses, and at low levels you only get one.In fact, you can't use the magic bedroll in conjunction with the &quot;campsite in a duffel bag&quot; item, since they're both &quot;one a day&quot; items.So, do I have that right?&nbsp; Using the bedroll prevents you from using some powers of your weapon or ring or some such.Or was that changed in some book I haven't read yet?&nbsp; Or do I just have the whole thing wrong?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6046240, member: 6669384"] First, to be up front, I don't currently play 4e. I have on the past, but it's not my group's preferred system. My question has to with items that are listed a "Daily Use". As I understand it, a given character has a limited number of times they can activate "1 per day" items. At the same time, the item has a limit of how often they can be activated: Once per day. Limiting both sides of this makes sense, since a PC could acquire a stack of the same item and blitz an encounter with item powers that are limited to maintain balance. So my question has to do with items like the Restful Bedroll, or the instant campsite: Items like these are made to give convenience level advantages to individuals or groups, as opposed to being things used in encounters. The problem is that these are Daily Use items. The bedroll lets one person get the benefits of a full night's sleep after only two hours. You're not supposed to let people use it in shifts. But if you use it, it uses up one of your "once a day" item uses, and at low levels you only get one. In fact, you can't use the magic bedroll in conjunction with the "campsite in a duffel bag" item, since they're both "one a day" items. So, do I have that right? Using the bedroll prevents you from using some powers of your weapon or ring or some such. Or was that changed in some book I haven't read yet? Or do I just have the whole thing wrong? [/QUOTE]

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