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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OnlineDM" data-source="post: 5394762" data-attributes="member: 90804">Ah, I see - I didn't realize it was Paragon adventuring.  I only have experience with Heroic tier so far, and it makes sense that things get nastier at Paragon.I was mentally comparing this to a medusa that I ran in a Living Forgotten Realms adventure recently.  Her attack slows on a hit (save ends).  The first failed save immobilizes.  The second failed save petrifies.  Granted, dropping to 0 hp is nowhere near as bad as being petrified, but I was thinking that two failed saves would be reasonable to wreck a PC, but not one.  At Paragon, perhaps that's fair.I do think you're pretty hardcore, though, which is cool.  I haven't played earlier editions, but I know that "save or die" effects definitely existed before.  I tend to think of 4e as intentionally getting AWAY from that sort of thing, and your banshee walks the line between the two mind sets.</blockquote>