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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 5444182" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>I just ordered the Pathfinder Bestiaries 1 and 2, and have been reading through them.</p><p></p><p>Interesting to see the evolution in #2, and how the game is starting to diverge in core...particularly with reimaginings of particular monsters such as the Siren (and Kelpie, I think).</p><p></p><p>However, I'm somewhat confused by the new stat blocks.</p><p></p><p>The Advancement rules seem to be gone. However, I think they're at the back in the Appendices. But they just seem to be a template now.</p><p></p><p>Has this been changed to make it more granular or something? In 3.5, advancing a creature usually meant increasing its HD, which gave it more hp, better saves, new feats, skills, increases to abilities, and if you increased enough HD, the size would go up, which would affect natural armor, attack rolls, and ability scores.</p><p></p><p>Now, advancing a creature just seems to involve giving it +2 natural armor, and +4 to all abilities. No HD increase.</p><p></p><p>Or is it just that the process is now more granular? Maybe advancement doesn't mean the same thing? You can advance a monster by giving it the Advanced Creature template, which is kind of like making it "an Elite"....and/or you can increase its HD, which eventually results in a size increase as well.</p><p></p><p>Is that correct?</p><p></p><p>Am I missing something?</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 5444182, member: 7883"] I just ordered the Pathfinder Bestiaries 1 and 2, and have been reading through them. Interesting to see the evolution in #2, and how the game is starting to diverge in core...particularly with reimaginings of particular monsters such as the Siren (and Kelpie, I think). However, I'm somewhat confused by the new stat blocks. The Advancement rules seem to be gone. However, I think they're at the back in the Appendices. But they just seem to be a template now. Has this been changed to make it more granular or something? In 3.5, advancing a creature usually meant increasing its HD, which gave it more hp, better saves, new feats, skills, increases to abilities, and if you increased enough HD, the size would go up, which would affect natural armor, attack rolls, and ability scores. Now, advancing a creature just seems to involve giving it +2 natural armor, and +4 to all abilities. No HD increase. Or is it just that the process is now more granular? Maybe advancement doesn't mean the same thing? You can advance a monster by giving it the Advanced Creature template, which is kind of like making it "an Elite"....and/or you can increase its HD, which eventually results in a size increase as well. Is that correct? Am I missing something? Banshee [/QUOTE]
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