Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Question about double weapons
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Vilous" data-source="post: 237373" data-attributes="member: 5536"><p>OK, so I've been reading a lot about how double weapons, as a rule are not 'worth it' when compared to using a single weapon with two hands.</p><p></p><p>(yes, I imagine this topic has been gone over in detail before, please bear with me)</p><p></p><p>However, in everything I've read I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the primary attack with the double weapon would get the 1.5x str bonus modifier.</p><p></p><p>Please correct me here if I'm wrong, I've looked through all the errata and FAQ's for a clarification or something and haven't found anything.</p><p></p><p>Here is what I -have- found:</p><p> Lets take the example of a double-bladed sword. I will focus here exclusivly on the Damage aspect of the blade, and ignore all the to-hit issues with 2 handed fighting.</p><p> </p><p> PH: pg 99: Sword Two-Bladed (double weapon) Dam: 1-8/1-8 </p><p></p><p> PH: pg 103: Sword Two-Bladed: You can fight with it as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon (see pg 124). </p><p> Vilous Comment: Since page 124 deals EXCLUSIVLY with to Hit bonuses I read this as also dealing with two hit bonuses and not talking at all about damage. If this is also talking in some way about to damage bonuses, it really deserves a clarification. Except for the mention of the off-hand as a light weapon which is very explicit.</p><p></p><p> PH: pg 119: Strength Bonus: Off-Hand Weapon: When you deal damage with a weapon in your off hand you add only one-half of your Strength bonus.</p><p></p><p> PH: pg 119: Strength Bonus: When you deal damage with a weapon that you are wielding two-handed, you add one and one-half times your Strength Bonus. Light weapons DON'T get this higher strength bonus when used two-handed. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Vilous Comment: So.. as I read all of this, it seems to me that using a two-bladed sword would give you 1.5x Strength bonus on the primary attack with the weapon, since you are using the weapon with two hands. And then you would get .5x your str bonus for the off-hand attack, since it is considered light, thus over-ruling the two-handed weapon str bonus modifier.</p><p></p><p>So it seems you would effectivly, if you hit with both blades, get 2x your strength bonus.</p><p></p><p>I've looked all over for a clarification that says you do NOT get to count your primary attack with a double weapon as being a weapon wielded with 2 hands, and could not find anything.</p><p></p><p>Is there anything anywhere that states that this is the case?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vilous, post: 237373, member: 5536"] OK, so I've been reading a lot about how double weapons, as a rule are not 'worth it' when compared to using a single weapon with two hands. (yes, I imagine this topic has been gone over in detail before, please bear with me) However, in everything I've read I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the primary attack with the double weapon would get the 1.5x str bonus modifier. Please correct me here if I'm wrong, I've looked through all the errata and FAQ's for a clarification or something and haven't found anything. Here is what I -have- found: Lets take the example of a double-bladed sword. I will focus here exclusivly on the Damage aspect of the blade, and ignore all the to-hit issues with 2 handed fighting. PH: pg 99: Sword Two-Bladed (double weapon) Dam: 1-8/1-8 PH: pg 103: Sword Two-Bladed: You can fight with it as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon (see pg 124). Vilous Comment: Since page 124 deals EXCLUSIVLY with to Hit bonuses I read this as also dealing with two hit bonuses and not talking at all about damage. If this is also talking in some way about to damage bonuses, it really deserves a clarification. Except for the mention of the off-hand as a light weapon which is very explicit. PH: pg 119: Strength Bonus: Off-Hand Weapon: When you deal damage with a weapon in your off hand you add only one-half of your Strength bonus. PH: pg 119: Strength Bonus: When you deal damage with a weapon that you are wielding two-handed, you add one and one-half times your Strength Bonus. Light weapons DON'T get this higher strength bonus when used two-handed. Vilous Comment: So.. as I read all of this, it seems to me that using a two-bladed sword would give you 1.5x Strength bonus on the primary attack with the weapon, since you are using the weapon with two hands. And then you would get .5x your str bonus for the off-hand attack, since it is considered light, thus over-ruling the two-handed weapon str bonus modifier. So it seems you would effectivly, if you hit with both blades, get 2x your strength bonus. I've looked all over for a clarification that says you do NOT get to count your primary attack with a double weapon as being a weapon wielded with 2 hands, and could not find anything. Is there anything anywhere that states that this is the case? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Question about double weapons
Top