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<blockquote data-quote="dakranon" data-source="post: 1679475" data-attributes="member: 11692"><p>According to the rules for a druid's wild shape ability, they do not gain low-light vision (or scent) when they turn into an animal (that has low-light vision and scent). </p><p>Furthermore, if the druid is an Elf (or a H-Elf, or Gnome, or any other race that has low-light vision), they lose their low light vision, when turning into an animal.</p><p></p><p>Does this seem right?</p><p></p><p>I believe that characters should not get 'magical-like' extraordinary qualities when polymorphing (like, when polymorphing into a Troll, getting its regeneration ability). But an animal's extraordinary qualities of low-light vision and scent are mundane, and I think that a druid using wild shape should get those abilities.</p><p></p><p>But not even considering giving a druid new extraordinary qualities when turning into an animal, it seems absurd that and Elf turning into a wolf (for example) would _lose_ their low-light vision ability.</p><p></p><p>Finally, what about other 'mundane' extraordinary qualities of animals like 'sprint', 'jet' and 'ink cloud'?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Relevant sections from the SRD:</p><p></p><p>Wild Shape:</p><p><em>“This ability functions like the polymorph spell, except as noted here.”</em></p><p></p><p>Polymorph:</p><p><em>“This spell functions like alter self, except..</em></p><p><em>..gains all extraordinary special attacks possessed by the form but does not gain the extraordinary special qualities possessed by the new form or any supernatural or spell-like abilities.”</em></p><p></p><p>Alter Self:</p><p><em>“You retain all supernatural and spell-like special attacks and qualities of your normal form, except for those requiring a body part that the new form does not have (such as a mouth for a breath weapon or eyes for a gaze attack).</em></p><p><em>You keep all extraordinary special attacks and qualities derived from class levels, but you lose any from your normal form that are not derived from class levels.</em></p><p><em>You do not gain any extraordinary special attacks or special qualities not noted above under physical qualities, such as darkvision, low-light vision, blindsense, blindsight, fast healing, regeneration, scent, and so forth.</em></p><p><em>You do not gain any supernatural special attacks, special qualities, or spell-like abilities of the new form.”</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dakranon, post: 1679475, member: 11692"] According to the rules for a druid's wild shape ability, they do not gain low-light vision (or scent) when they turn into an animal (that has low-light vision and scent). Furthermore, if the druid is an Elf (or a H-Elf, or Gnome, or any other race that has low-light vision), they lose their low light vision, when turning into an animal. Does this seem right? I believe that characters should not get 'magical-like' extraordinary qualities when polymorphing (like, when polymorphing into a Troll, getting its regeneration ability). But an animal's extraordinary qualities of low-light vision and scent are mundane, and I think that a druid using wild shape should get those abilities. But not even considering giving a druid new extraordinary qualities when turning into an animal, it seems absurd that and Elf turning into a wolf (for example) would _lose_ their low-light vision ability. Finally, what about other 'mundane' extraordinary qualities of animals like 'sprint', 'jet' and 'ink cloud'? Relevant sections from the SRD: Wild Shape: [I]“This ability functions like the polymorph spell, except as noted here.”[/I] Polymorph: [I]“This spell functions like alter self, except.. ..gains all extraordinary special attacks possessed by the form but does not gain the extraordinary special qualities possessed by the new form or any supernatural or spell-like abilities.”[/I] Alter Self: [I]“You retain all supernatural and spell-like special attacks and qualities of your normal form, except for those requiring a body part that the new form does not have (such as a mouth for a breath weapon or eyes for a gaze attack). You keep all extraordinary special attacks and qualities derived from class levels, but you lose any from your normal form that are not derived from class levels. You do not gain any extraordinary special attacks or special qualities not noted above under physical qualities, such as darkvision, low-light vision, blindsense, blindsight, fast healing, regeneration, scent, and so forth. You do not gain any supernatural special attacks, special qualities, or spell-like abilities of the new form.”[/I] [/QUOTE]
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