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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 6428077" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>As I originally pointed out, the spell doesn't do anything vs things like Force Cage, Wizard Lock, a pit, a locked door, a jail cell, or a vault. A thousand feet of granite in your way does not effect your <em>movement</em>. These obstacles are <strong>blocking your path</strong> and are not keeping you from moving around. You're not receiving any penalty to your speed nor are these obstacles grappling you in any way.</p><p></p><p>You don't roll escape artist or grapple checks vs a wall, or a locked door (open locks). So I'm assuming you keep bringing up those examples more to be snarky than as an honest question. I suggest reading the 3.5 FAQ because it has several paragraphs about Freedom of Movement.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think the whole idea about letting Freedom of Movement work against things like manacles may in fact be one of those houserules that most houses have taken as RAW. I forgot that Freedom of Movement really only says that it works against grappling situations and using Escape Artist to escape a grapple. Being shackled is not a form of being grappled and the spell description only mentions Escape Artist to point out it being used to escape a grapple, not to escape everything on the Escape Artist DC chart. </p><p></p><p>So if you wanted to save yourself the headache, that's your angle. People (like me) may just relate the spell to working against all forms of physical immobility because it uses paralysis as one of the examples and we think of being shackled as a form of impeding movement. So being shackled probably doesn't work with the spell according to RAW.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 6428077, member: 18701"] As I originally pointed out, the spell doesn't do anything vs things like Force Cage, Wizard Lock, a pit, a locked door, a jail cell, or a vault. A thousand feet of granite in your way does not effect your [i]movement[/i]. These obstacles are [b]blocking your path[/b] and are not keeping you from moving around. You're not receiving any penalty to your speed nor are these obstacles grappling you in any way. You don't roll escape artist or grapple checks vs a wall, or a locked door (open locks). So I'm assuming you keep bringing up those examples more to be snarky than as an honest question. I suggest reading the 3.5 FAQ because it has several paragraphs about Freedom of Movement. Also, I think the whole idea about letting Freedom of Movement work against things like manacles may in fact be one of those houserules that most houses have taken as RAW. I forgot that Freedom of Movement really only says that it works against grappling situations and using Escape Artist to escape a grapple. Being shackled is not a form of being grappled and the spell description only mentions Escape Artist to point out it being used to escape a grapple, not to escape everything on the Escape Artist DC chart. So if you wanted to save yourself the headache, that's your angle. People (like me) may just relate the spell to working against all forms of physical immobility because it uses paralysis as one of the examples and we think of being shackled as a form of impeding movement. So being shackled probably doesn't work with the spell according to RAW. [/QUOTE]
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