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<blockquote data-quote="Branduil" data-source="post: 4275924" data-attributes="member: 11617"><p>Twin vs. Basic is more of an interesting choice, as far as I can tell from what little math I've done. It really depends on two things:</p><p></p><p>-How much bonus damage you get besides your modifier.</p><p>-What you need to roll to hit.</p><p></p><p>In general, the higher you need to roll, and the more non-modifier bonus damage you have, the better it is to use Twin Strike instead of a basic attack.</p><p></p><p>I calculated the math for my Ranger because I wanted to be as efficient as possible. I have a +4 mod to dex. I also have the feat Lethal Hunter which changes my Hunter's Quarry dice to d8's. My character is level 1.</p><p></p><p>If I must hit a 15 or higher to hit, with a basic attack I will average 4.2dpr(damage per round), calculating in miss chance, average damage, hunter's quarry, etc.</p><p></p><p>With Twin Strike, if I must roll 15 or higher, 7.3dpr. Obviously the better choice.</p><p></p><p>If I must hit 11 or higher,</p><p>Basic Attack= 7dpr</p><p>Twin Strike= 8.62dpr</p><p></p><p>7 or higher,</p><p>BA= 9.8dpr</p><p>TS= 9.51dpr</p><p></p><p>So, a basic attack can actually be optimal against extremely easy to hit foes. Of course, in some cases you still might want to use twin strike, like against two easy-to-hit minions, since you could potentially kill both of them.</p><p></p><p>If I take Weapon Focus(Longbow) as my feat at level 2, Twin Strike becomes a bit better in most cases.</p><p></p><p>If I need to hit 15 or higher,</p><p>BA= 4.5dpr</p><p>TS= 7.82dpr</p><p></p><p>11 or higher,</p><p>BA= 7.5dpr</p><p>TS=9.38dpr</p><p></p><p>7 or higher,</p><p>BA= 10.5dpr</p><p>TS= 10.42dpr</p><p></p><p>So at this point, even against low-AC enemies a basic attack's advantage is minimal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Branduil, post: 4275924, member: 11617"] Twin vs. Basic is more of an interesting choice, as far as I can tell from what little math I've done. It really depends on two things: -How much bonus damage you get besides your modifier. -What you need to roll to hit. In general, the higher you need to roll, and the more non-modifier bonus damage you have, the better it is to use Twin Strike instead of a basic attack. I calculated the math for my Ranger because I wanted to be as efficient as possible. I have a +4 mod to dex. I also have the feat Lethal Hunter which changes my Hunter's Quarry dice to d8's. My character is level 1. If I must hit a 15 or higher to hit, with a basic attack I will average 4.2dpr(damage per round), calculating in miss chance, average damage, hunter's quarry, etc. With Twin Strike, if I must roll 15 or higher, 7.3dpr. Obviously the better choice. If I must hit 11 or higher, Basic Attack= 7dpr Twin Strike= 8.62dpr 7 or higher, BA= 9.8dpr TS= 9.51dpr So, a basic attack can actually be optimal against extremely easy to hit foes. Of course, in some cases you still might want to use twin strike, like against two easy-to-hit minions, since you could potentially kill both of them. If I take Weapon Focus(Longbow) as my feat at level 2, Twin Strike becomes a bit better in most cases. If I need to hit 15 or higher, BA= 4.5dpr TS= 7.82dpr 11 or higher, BA= 7.5dpr TS=9.38dpr 7 or higher, BA= 10.5dpr TS= 10.42dpr So at this point, even against low-AC enemies a basic attack's advantage is minimal. [/QUOTE]
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