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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5609020" data-attributes="member: 35909">I have a question about the spell, and possibly of the PF bull rush rules in general.<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/hydraulic-push" target="_blank">Hydraulic Push - Pathfinder_OGC</a>"You call forth a quick blast of water that knocks over and soaks one creature or square. You can use this blast of water to make a bull rush against any one creature or object. Your CMB for this bull rush is equal to your caster level plus your Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma modifier, whichever is highest. This bull rush does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Hydraulic push extinguishes any normal fires on a creature, object, or in a single 5-foot square which it is targeted against. Magical fires are unaffected."Since this is a close range spell with a target of a creature or object and no text to say otherwise, I infer that you can create this wall of water in any space within range of the spell (or any open square, at least).  Further, the wave of water should be able to travel in whatever direction I dictate, bull rushing the target up to the spell's range.In other words, I should be able to have it appear on the opposite side of a foe that I'm on and push him towards me, to the side, or whatever else as long as it's a straight line direction.My friend disagrees.  He says that since the spell allows "you...to make a bull rush," that as far as the rules are concerned, you ARE the bull rusher.  In addition, he thinks that bull rushing requires that you push the person away from you, and that "back" refers to this (away from you, the bull rusher).  So he thinks it effectively originates from your square, you can't put your foe between you and the water.I think the only reasonable way to interpret "back" is the direction of the bull rush, as any attempt by the foe to resist will be in the opposite direction, and that "back" can only be used relative to the person being bull rushed, not the bull rusher (you're moving forward, not back; he's the one being moved "back").Further, again, the spell says nothing to imply the effect comes from you or relies on your positioning for its direction of travel, and use the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/hydraulic-torrent" target="_blank">Hydraulic Torrent</a> spell as an example, which as a line effect has to originate from you.What do you think?</blockquote>

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