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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5629890" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, you are already far more lenient than I would be.&nbsp;&nbsp; At the flat refusal to give the haubergeon back, we probably would have been facing TPK in my game.&nbsp; People in positions of authority generally don't accept being told, &quot;No.&quot;, by their social inferiors in front of their own henchmen.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a hard time imagining a noble of any alignment putting up with that sort of humilition.&nbsp; By not immediately attacking, he's giving them an out that they might not deserve after a brazen and throughly dishonorable theft, but by flatly refusing him they are leaving him very little choice in my opinion.&nbsp; I don't think there is an NPC in my game who, having been doubly insulted, wouldn't assume he was completely mistaken in assessing the PC's as heroes, and reclassify them as lawless low born knaves to be dealt with swiftly and harshly.&nbsp; Even if they had survived, we'd segue into a bandit campaign as whatever goals I might have originally imagined for the PC's would likely be impossible and the main goal from there on out would have to be survival.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5629890, member: 4937"] Well, you are already far more lenient than I would be. At the flat refusal to give the haubergeon back, we probably would have been facing TPK in my game. People in positions of authority generally don't accept being told, "No.", by their social inferiors in front of their own henchmen. I have a hard time imagining a noble of any alignment putting up with that sort of humilition. By not immediately attacking, he's giving them an out that they might not deserve after a brazen and throughly dishonorable theft, but by flatly refusing him they are leaving him very little choice in my opinion. I don't think there is an NPC in my game who, having been doubly insulted, wouldn't assume he was completely mistaken in assessing the PC's as heroes, and reclassify them as lawless low born knaves to be dealt with swiftly and harshly. Even if they had survived, we'd segue into a bandit campaign as whatever goals I might have originally imagined for the PC's would likely be impossible and the main goal from there on out would have to be survival. [/QUOTE]

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