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<blockquote data-quote="Green Knight" data-source="post: 242708" data-attributes="member: 2723"><p>Alright, here's the deal. I'll be playing in a game, soon, and the party is starting at 2nd level. For myself, I decided to take 1 level in Rogue and 1 level in Paladin. For Rogue skills, I took Bluff (Note: Not to lie, which is against the Paladins' Code), Diplomacy, Gather Information, Knowledge (religion), Listen, Perform, Sense Motive, Spot, Wilderness Lore, Knowledge (nobility), and Knowledge (war). (The knowledge skills are class skills due to my taking the Education feat). </p><p> </p><p>Here's the problem. My DM thinks that the Paladin using a Sneak Attack is dishonorable. I say no, that it's not against the Code. All a Sneak Attack is is the character aiming for a vital spot. (Quick Note: I only intend to take 1 level of Rogue. After that, I'll be advancing Paladin). IMO, it's no different than scoring a critical, as with both you're striking at a vital area. Just the Rogue is more adept at striking at those vital areas, and the target doesn't have time to react and thus is hurt more badly than otherwise were he allowed an opportunity to roll with the blow. </p><p> </p><p>He also frequently mentioned backstabbing would be dishonorable, which is not what a Sneak Attack is. Sneak Attack is not Backstab. You don't even need to be behind someone to use a Sneak Attack. </p><p> </p><p>HOWEVER, let's say my character were to sneak up behind someone and stab them in the back (Though I doubt he could ever take someone by surprise like that, as he has NO ranks in Move Silently whatsoever, and his Dex is 10. Nevermind the fact that more often than not I'll be wearing Full Plate). I'm talking a bad guy, here which, according to the PHB, I'm supposed to show no mercy. Why would it be wrong for my character to take an enemy by surprise and kill him before he got a chance to react? I'm supposed to smite evil, after all. Must I go about it in a Lawful Stupid manner? Put myself and the innocent who depend on me in needless risk when stealth and killing the enemy quickly could achieve the same ends? </p><p> </p><p>Also, I took the Bluff skill mostly to<em> feint</em>, as described in the PHB. My DM also has a problem with this, too, and doesn't think that a Paladin should use tricks to defeat his enemies. </p><p> </p><p>So what's your opinion on this subject? Is there anything wrong with a Paladin using Sneak Attack? Feinting in order to get a sneak attack? Thanks for the help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Green Knight, post: 242708, member: 2723"] Alright, here's the deal. I'll be playing in a game, soon, and the party is starting at 2nd level. For myself, I decided to take 1 level in Rogue and 1 level in Paladin. For Rogue skills, I took Bluff (Note: Not to lie, which is against the Paladins' Code), Diplomacy, Gather Information, Knowledge (religion), Listen, Perform, Sense Motive, Spot, Wilderness Lore, Knowledge (nobility), and Knowledge (war). (The knowledge skills are class skills due to my taking the Education feat). Here's the problem. My DM thinks that the Paladin using a Sneak Attack is dishonorable. I say no, that it's not against the Code. All a Sneak Attack is is the character aiming for a vital spot. (Quick Note: I only intend to take 1 level of Rogue. After that, I'll be advancing Paladin). IMO, it's no different than scoring a critical, as with both you're striking at a vital area. Just the Rogue is more adept at striking at those vital areas, and the target doesn't have time to react and thus is hurt more badly than otherwise were he allowed an opportunity to roll with the blow. He also frequently mentioned backstabbing would be dishonorable, which is not what a Sneak Attack is. Sneak Attack is not Backstab. You don't even need to be behind someone to use a Sneak Attack. HOWEVER, let's say my character were to sneak up behind someone and stab them in the back (Though I doubt he could ever take someone by surprise like that, as he has NO ranks in Move Silently whatsoever, and his Dex is 10. Nevermind the fact that more often than not I'll be wearing Full Plate). I'm talking a bad guy, here which, according to the PHB, I'm supposed to show no mercy. Why would it be wrong for my character to take an enemy by surprise and kill him before he got a chance to react? I'm supposed to smite evil, after all. Must I go about it in a Lawful Stupid manner? Put myself and the innocent who depend on me in needless risk when stealth and killing the enemy quickly could achieve the same ends? Also, I took the Bluff skill mostly to[i] feint[/i], as described in the PHB. My DM also has a problem with this, too, and doesn't think that a Paladin should use tricks to defeat his enemies. So what's your opinion on this subject? Is there anything wrong with a Paladin using Sneak Attack? Feinting in order to get a sneak attack? Thanks for the help. [/QUOTE]
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