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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Piratecat" data-source="post: 1133301" data-attributes="member: 2">Hey, Defenders of Daybreak!  Shoo!  Scoot!  Go!  (makes shooing motions with hands)All gone?Cool.Here's a 3.0/Epic question for you folks. Do abilities and spells that affect outsiders affect native outsiders the same way?In particular, their is an epic feat (planar turning, ELH p. 64) that allows a hero to turn or rebuke outsiders as if they are undead. Fair enough; any outsider from a different plane is affected if the hero can get through the outsiders turn resistance and hit dice. But how does this impact a native outsider, such as someone who has reached the 10th lvl of their prestige class (like alienist) and transformed?  How does it affect someone like an aasimar?Likewise, I assume that spells which banish or dismiss outsiders don't work on native outsiders. Right?Thanks for any help you can offer! I'm really scratching my head on the epic feat, and I'd like to be fair.</blockquote>