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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 48580" data-attributes="member: 284">This is correct. This is completely incorrect. A) You don't gain anything from Expert Tactician &quot;as&nbsp; soon as the feint is successfull&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; Expert Tactician doesn't kick in until they lose their Dex bonus to AC, and feinting doesn't cause them to do that until you actually attack them.&nbsp; So even after a successfull feint, Expert Tactician won't trigger until you attack them normally. B) The Sage did not rule that &quot;Two Partials make a Full Round Action&quot;,&nbsp; what you are referring to is using a&nbsp; &quot;Starting a Full Round Action&quot; on page 127 of the PHB.&nbsp;&nbsp; This only applies to Miscellaneous Actions, and you can't use it for a Full Round attack action (because it's not on Table 8-4 Miscellaneous Actions).&nbsp;&nbsp; The Sage ruled that you could use a partial action to speed up the casting time of a full round spell, he made no such ruling about the full attack action. C) Expert Tactician doesn't grant an extra partial action.&nbsp; It grants a single extra attack, which by itself is not a partial action.&nbsp; (This is in the Sword and Fist Errata.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 48580, member: 284"] This is correct. [b][/b] This is completely incorrect. A) You don't gain anything from Expert Tactician "as soon as the feint is successfull". Expert Tactician doesn't kick in until they lose their Dex bonus to AC, and feinting doesn't cause them to do that until you actually attack them. So even after a successfull feint, Expert Tactician won't trigger until you attack them normally. B) The Sage did not rule that "Two Partials make a Full Round Action", what you are referring to is using a "Starting a Full Round Action" on page 127 of the PHB. This only applies to Miscellaneous Actions, and you can't use it for a Full Round attack action (because it's not on Table 8-4 Miscellaneous Actions). The Sage ruled that you could use a partial action to speed up the casting time of a full round spell, he made no such ruling about the full attack action. C) Expert Tactician doesn't grant an extra partial action. It grants a single extra attack, which by itself is not a partial action. (This is in the Sword and Fist Errata.) [/QUOTE]

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