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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 48613" data-attributes="member: 284">I did not.   I was correct in everything I stated.I can read the skill description on page 64 of the PHB, where it explicitly states that your target only loses their Dex against your next attack.   Until you make that attack, they still have their full Dex bonus. Not that different.  Quicker than the Eye let's you do a partial action, but they still don't lose their Dex bonus until you take that partial action.  It really doesn't matter either way for this particular application though, since you will be taking that partial action immediately after bluffing them, instead of on the next round the way it is with a normal feint.     It doesn't matter if you were meaning to refer to page 127 or not, that's the rules that cover using two partial actions for a full round action, and it very clearly does not apply to the Full Attack Action. The Sage cannot change the rules in the PHB, he can only offer clarifications.   He made a rulling specifically regarding haste and full round spells.  It doesn't apply to the Full Attack Action, and it wouldn't be a valid ruling even if he did say that it did.  That would be errata, and he can't release official errata. It's not a gray area at all.   A single attack by itself  is not a partial action.  (A partial action can be used to make an attack, but the attack itself is not a partial action.)An Attack of Opportunity is a single attack, and it is very clearly not a partial action. A Speed weapon grants a single extra attack, and explicitly states that it is not an extra partial action. The errata for Sword and Fist very specifically changed Expert Tactician from granting a Partial Action to granting a single extra Attack.   The updated version of the feat in Song and Silence didn't change that, it just added Combat Reflexes as a prerequisite. I didn't.</blockquote>

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