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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2471034" data-attributes="member: 30610">Thank you. While I'm on the soapbox, let me comment on something else.  There is a dangerous tendency to think that just because the mechanics of two different things are similar, they are closely related, and vice versa.  The descriptive text is often ignored by this approach.  While I don't say that we should look at the descriptive text above all else, neither should we look solely at the mechanics - which are just the nitty-gritty means of trying to make the world replicate the concept the author had.Obviously, by stating that the cleric's version is more powerful, you mean to imply "and I think it SHOULD be more powerful because he's casting it as a 5th level spell."  I don't, and that's where we differ.  I can't argue with you that the cleric's flame strike doesn't differ by +1 DC, because under the rules it does.  Rather, my point is that the very fact that it has a +1 DC is an unfortunate consequence of the rules being formulated as they are, just as a troll barbarian having a greater bonus to Concentration checks than an elven mage is an unfortunate consequence of the rules being formulated as they are.  (I would likewise suggest that a druid casting a healing spell is essentially forced to cast it with his higher level slot because he's not as good at healing as a cleric - please don't think that I'm biased one way or the other.)</blockquote>