Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Negative Zero" data-source="post: 1240653" data-attributes="member: 3794">so ... lemme see if i get this right, LokiDR thinks that creative spell use should be discouraged? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> seriously though, the spell description says nothing that prevents sitting on it. (quotes taken from the 3.5 SRD):&nbsp;&nbsp;a lot of people seem to take task with the word follow in this sentence. the word has several meanings and is not limited to simply &quot;trailing behind&quot; but also includes &quot;complying with instruction&quot;. nothing here that forbids it ...&nbsp;&nbsp;it'll always stay level at a specific height, and will accompany you. so as long as the caster is &quot;with&quot; the disk, or more specifically, he accompanies it, then there's no breach of limitation here either. (if the halfling sits on the shoulders of the half-orc as he runs around town, i'm pretty sure he's accompanying his buddy ... as a friend of mine was prone to do in a game i played in recently.) ...&nbsp;this is probably the most debatable aspect of the rules. however, surely it is apparent that a 5 foot interval is its &quot;default setting&quot;, and as the spell description states, you can change this &quot;default setting&quot; if you so choose. ...&nbsp;&nbsp;here the conditions that end the spell are clearly stated. and sitting atop it is clearly not among them. it seems that as long as you do not exceed the limitations of the spell, then it works.&nbsp;now, i understand that there is a 1st edition precedent, but i think it is important to view the spell without the 1e baggage. as of 3.5e, based on the specifics of the spell, i don't see anything that forbids sitting on it. &nbsp;(personally, i like Caliban's idea that it still triggers pressure plates and the like. that would presume that the spell exerts a certain amount of pressure on the ground, likely modified by what it's holding.)&nbsp;(i'm adding the entire text of the spell below to make it easier for others to make their own points and reference the text.)&nbsp;~NegZ</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Negative Zero, post: 1240653, member: 3794"] so ... lemme see if i get this right, [b]LokiDR[/b] thinks that creative spell use should be discouraged? ;) seriously though, the spell description says nothing that prevents sitting on it. (quotes taken from the 3.5 SRD): a lot of people seem to take task with the word follow in this sentence. the word has several meanings and is not limited to simply "trailing behind" but also includes "complying with instruction". nothing here that forbids it ... it'll always stay level at a specific height, and will accompany you. so as long as the caster is "with" the disk, or more specifically, he accompanies it, then there's no breach of limitation here either. (if the halfling sits on the shoulders of the half-orc as he runs around town, i'm pretty sure he's accompanying his buddy ... as a friend of mine was prone to do in a game i played in recently.) ... this is probably the most debatable aspect of the rules. however, surely it is apparent that a 5 foot interval is its "default setting", and as the spell description states, you can change this "default setting" if you so choose. ... here the conditions that end the spell are clearly stated. and sitting atop it is clearly not among them. it seems that as long as you do not exceed the limitations of the spell, then it works. now, i understand that there is a 1st edition precedent, but i think it is important to view the spell without the 1e baggage. as of 3.5e, based on the specifics of the spell, i don't see anything that forbids sitting on it. (personally, i like [b]Caliban[/b]'s idea that it still triggers pressure plates and the like. that would presume that the spell exerts a certain amount of pressure on the ground, likely modified by what it's holding.) (i'm adding the entire text of the spell below to make it easier for others to make their own points and reference the text.) ~NegZ [/QUOTE]

Verification