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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 1244911" data-attributes="member: 1704"><p>I think analogies are useful, but in my opinion you are not choosing a fair or appropriate one.</p><p></p><p>I think that using a fireball as a flare fits well enough with the spell description and does not add extra functionality rather than just taking advantage of what is normally a side effect (the visual impact). To add serious new functionality to fireball along the lines of personal transpo for floating disk, we'd be talking about using a fireball directed at the ground below you as a way of making a super leap, like a one-shot jet pack.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, one creative use of floating disk that doesn't create new functionality but turns a nonprimary effect into a useful one would be leading a floating disk into position blocking a doorway, directing it to stop following, then getting behind it and using it as an interposing barrier. Not like it won't move when pushed, but it could screw up a charge.</p><p></p><p>Or, a mage with a move of 30 could have a heavily armored fighter with a move of 20 climb up top, and he could lead him around in combat, giving him better speed, effectively, and a +1 to hit for attacking from higher ground.</p><p></p><p>Those are creative uses that make functions out of side effects, but they don't add new effects as you do if you let the "otherwise directed" in "If not otherwise directed, it maintains a constant interval of 5 feet between itself and you." turn into "move anywhere you want." Heck, why not just "otherwise direct" it to bump into foes, disrupt enemy spellcasters' concentration, and make you tea while we're at it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 1244911, member: 1704"] I think analogies are useful, but in my opinion you are not choosing a fair or appropriate one. I think that using a fireball as a flare fits well enough with the spell description and does not add extra functionality rather than just taking advantage of what is normally a side effect (the visual impact). To add serious new functionality to fireball along the lines of personal transpo for floating disk, we'd be talking about using a fireball directed at the ground below you as a way of making a super leap, like a one-shot jet pack. On the other hand, one creative use of floating disk that doesn't create new functionality but turns a nonprimary effect into a useful one would be leading a floating disk into position blocking a doorway, directing it to stop following, then getting behind it and using it as an interposing barrier. Not like it won't move when pushed, but it could screw up a charge. Or, a mage with a move of 30 could have a heavily armored fighter with a move of 20 climb up top, and he could lead him around in combat, giving him better speed, effectively, and a +1 to hit for attacking from higher ground. Those are creative uses that make functions out of side effects, but they don't add new effects as you do if you let the "otherwise directed" in "If not otherwise directed, it maintains a constant interval of 5 feet between itself and you." turn into "move anywhere you want." Heck, why not just "otherwise direct" it to bump into foes, disrupt enemy spellcasters' concentration, and make you tea while we're at it? ;) [/QUOTE]
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