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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Whiskers" data-source="post: 1286279" data-attributes="member: 6941"><p>Just to clarify, the balrogs never really served Sauron. They were basically fallen angels corrupted by Sauron's master, Morgoth. Sauron served Morgoth and might have been given balrogs for specific tasks (I can't remember any examples of this though), but the balrogs always served Morgoth during the First Age.</p><p></p><p>The only balrog mentioned after the First Age was "Durin's Bane", the balrog that drove the dwarves out of Khazad-Dum, which then became known as Moria.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, this is a theme throughout Tokien's works. I don't remember if the line is in the first movie, but in the book, Gandalf tells Frodo that the Ring was meant to be found by Bilbo; that forces were at work in that moment, and forces other than Sauron caused Bilbo to find it. Which meant that Frodo was intended to receive the Ring. Gandalf meant this to be comforting to Frodo, though I doubt Frodo saw it that way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>Having Merry "just happen" to end up with the blade most likely to harm the Witch King is just another example of the work of fate in Middle Earth. It's perfectly consistent with Tolkien's mythos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Whiskers, post: 1286279, member: 6941"] Just to clarify, the balrogs never really served Sauron. They were basically fallen angels corrupted by Sauron's master, Morgoth. Sauron served Morgoth and might have been given balrogs for specific tasks (I can't remember any examples of this though), but the balrogs always served Morgoth during the First Age. The only balrog mentioned after the First Age was "Durin's Bane", the balrog that drove the dwarves out of Khazad-Dum, which then became known as Moria. Actually, this is a theme throughout Tokien's works. I don't remember if the line is in the first movie, but in the book, Gandalf tells Frodo that the Ring was meant to be found by Bilbo; that forces were at work in that moment, and forces other than Sauron caused Bilbo to find it. Which meant that Frodo was intended to receive the Ring. Gandalf meant this to be comforting to Frodo, though I doubt Frodo saw it that way. :p Having Merry "just happen" to end up with the blade most likely to harm the Witch King is just another example of the work of fate in Middle Earth. It's perfectly consistent with Tolkien's mythos. [/QUOTE]
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