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<blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 9336513" data-attributes="member: 12909">I think that you're basically limited by the rules as written to a Warlock expanded spell list specified in the Adventurer's Guide, or if there's one listed in your Warlock archetype you could take that instead.The limited number of spells known really restricts what spells a Warlock should select from - only the ones that you'll use often and that work well. As a result, you may not find a spare spell known to choose from your Warlock expanded spell list. Most of the expanded spell lists only have 1 or 2 must have spells that you'd select over a spell in the Warlock standard spell list.I have a now 7th level Warlock that I've played from 1st level. The 4th level spell Freedom of Movement was the first spell that I've selected from the expanded spell list. I.e., the expanded spell list was irrelevant to me until 7th character level, which is poor character class in my opinion though it's consistent with the original D&amp;D 5E Warlock design.The 11th level Deep Patronage invocation is much better in this regard. You get all the spells on the expanded spell list as spells known, so you will cast them now and then, without sacrificing another spell slot.From a DM perspective, I think it is fine to grant the Warlock player the expanded spells as spells known, but it does conflict with the spells known scarcity for the Warlock class. Not a big deal if it doesn't impinge on other characters. It's not that significant a power up, as the Warlock is still limited in spell slots (D&amp;D) / spell points (A5E).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tessarael, post: 9336513, member: 12909"] I think that you're basically limited by the rules as written to a Warlock expanded spell list specified in the Adventurer's Guide, or if there's one listed in your Warlock archetype you could take that instead. The limited number of spells known really restricts what spells a Warlock should select from - only the ones that you'll use often and that work well. As a result, you may not find a spare spell known to choose from your Warlock expanded spell list. Most of the expanded spell lists only have 1 or 2 must have spells that you'd select over a spell in the Warlock standard spell list. I have a now 7th level Warlock that I've played from 1st level. The 4th level spell Freedom of Movement was the first spell that I've selected from the expanded spell list. I.e., the expanded spell list was irrelevant to me until 7th character level, which is poor character class in my opinion though it's consistent with the original D&D 5E Warlock design. The 11th level Deep Patronage invocation is much better in this regard. You get all the spells on the expanded spell list as spells known, so you will cast them now and then, without sacrificing another spell slot. From a DM perspective, I think it is fine to grant the Warlock player the expanded spells as spells known, but it does conflict with the spells known scarcity for the Warlock class. Not a big deal if it doesn't impinge on other characters. It's not that significant a power up, as the Warlock is still limited in spell slots (D&D) / spell points (A5E). [/QUOTE]

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