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<blockquote data-quote="Dagredhel" data-source="post: 271469" data-attributes="member: 3421">Thanks guys!So, if I understand trancejeremy correctly, there are only three different progressions, and they look like this:Class&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DEF bonusLevel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; poor&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; medium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; good1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +42&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +53&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +54&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +65&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +66&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +77&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +78&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +89&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +810&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +911&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +912&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1013&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1014&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1115&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1116&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1217&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1218&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1319&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1320&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +14Moreover, both Armsman (Fighters) and channeler (spellcaster) classes use the 'poor' progression, the caveat being that for the Armsman (only), DEF bonus stacks with armor.&nbsp; Is that right?While I was (laboriously) charting the progressions above, a few questions occurrred to me:1)&nbsp; Are there NPC classes in WoT equivalent to those in D&amp;D, and if so, what are their DEF bonus progressions?&nbsp; (Are they worse than the 'poor' progression above?)2)&nbsp; Do 'monsters' ever get DEF bonuses?3)&nbsp; Is armor treated the same in WoT as D&amp;D?4)&nbsp; Are the progressions the same in Star Wars?Besides the rule questions, I'd be very interested to find out whether anyone has tried using DEF in a D&amp;D game, and with what result. Thanks again!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dagredhel, post: 271469, member: 3421"] Thanks guys! So, if I understand trancejeremy correctly, there are only three different progressions, and they look like this: Class DEF bonus Level poor medium good 1 +2 +3 +4 2 +2 +4 +5 3 +3 +4 +5 4 +3 +4 +6 5 +3 +5 +6 6 +4 +5 +7 7 +4 +6 +7 8 +4 +6 +8 9 +5 +6 +8 10 +5 +7 +9 11 +5 +7 +9 12 +6 +8 +10 13 +6 +8 +10 14 +6 +8 +11 15 +7 +9 +11 16 +7 +9 +12 17 +7 +10 +12 18 +8 +10 +13 19 +8 +10 +13 20 +8 +11 +14 Moreover, both Armsman (Fighters) and channeler (spellcaster) classes use the 'poor' progression, the caveat being that for the Armsman (only), DEF bonus stacks with armor. Is that right? While I was (laboriously) charting the progressions above, a few questions occurrred to me: 1) Are there NPC classes in WoT equivalent to those in D&D, and if so, what are their DEF bonus progressions? (Are they worse than the 'poor' progression above?) 2) Do 'monsters' ever get DEF bonuses? 3) Is armor treated the same in WoT as D&D? 4) Are the progressions the same in Star Wars? Besides the rule questions, I'd be very interested to find out whether anyone has tried using DEF in a D&D game, and with what result. Thanks again! [/QUOTE]

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