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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5977940" data-attributes="member: 59506">Interesting... The post you quoted was the OP, and the OP was not talking about feel.  In fact, he just paraphrased it in his last post:  That's not feel.  That's a pretty straightforward question about how the rules work, not how they feel. You may want to re-read that post you quoted as it looks like you very much missed the point of what he was asking...  Feedback also needs to be objective, constructive, and based in fact.  Things which your post have been glaringly lacking in.  Negativity, personal bias, and bashing have no place in providing feedback.  Again, how is it possible for something to be dialing back from 4E if it is incorporating concepts and designs from 4E in it...?<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> Or are you trying to say that if 5E has any elements of any other D&D Edition, even though it does include parts of 4E, it is dialing back because it's not pure 4E...? If so, that is an unreasonable expectation of any new edition, is not honest or constructive feedback, and already exists in the form of the game you prefer.  If that's the case, why don't you go play the game you like and stop trying to poison the 5E well...  This is where you keep running into problems: stating your opinion as fact! Whether or not one considers 5E to be in a sorry state right now is a subjective evaluation.  If you had said "IMO, 5E is in a sorry state...", or "I think 5E is in a sorry state...", you'd have been just fine.  It may seem stupid or anal to you to include such statements, but that is the accepted form of posting here at ENWorld.  The <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/faq.php" target="_blank">FAQ</a> for the site itself says not to declare absolute statements like this.  For more discussion and clarification on this, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people.html" target="_blank">this</a> is an excellent thread on the subject.  Specifically <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-2.html#post5964083" target="_blank">this</a> post, and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964230" target="_blank">this</a> post (by one of our Mods) reinforcing the previous post.  Also good are <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964216" target="_blank">this</a>, and these: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964215" target="_blank">post</a>, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964236" target="_blank">post</a>, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964240" target="_blank">post</a>, and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/326152-so-its-old-edition-war-excuse-dismiss-people-4.html#post5964246" target="_blank">post</a> (all four from yours truly).  And this doesn't justify you throwing the same type of negativity towards 5E now.  It was just as wrong for those that did this to 4E, as it is for you or anyone else to do this now with 5E. Be a part of the solution, not the cause of the problem.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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