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<blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1254500" data-attributes="member: 14214">Both suggestions avoid the challenge <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; A dragon doesn't fit in with a 5th level or lower party, and a Rakshasha has an ECL of at least 8 if not 14, so it doesn't either...ECL or LA of &lt; 3 is the challenge...&nbsp; You could also use feats if from official sources (but I haven't found any yet that will let this happen)So far, the closest thing I can identify is this:Drow at 3rd CLvl with 3 levels of Cleric.&nbsp; Feats: Noble Drow HeritageThe character can cast his spelllike abilities as an arcane caster of his CLvl, i.e. 3rd.&nbsp; Noble Drow Heritage gives him access to 2nd level spells as spell like abilities (only 2 or 3, but it counts)&nbsp; Three levels of cleric gives him 2nd level divine spells.&nbsp; His ECL +2 makes him a 5th APL Party member.Any better ideas?&nbsp; That's the best I can come up with from the offical books.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tilla the Hun (work), post: 1254500, member: 14214"] Both suggestions avoid the challenge :) A dragon doesn't fit in with a 5th level or lower party, and a Rakshasha has an ECL of at least 8 if not 14, so it doesn't either... ECL or LA of < 3 is the challenge... You could also use feats if from official sources (but I haven't found any yet that will let this happen) So far, the closest thing I can identify is this: Drow at 3rd CLvl with 3 levels of Cleric. Feats: Noble Drow Heritage The character can cast his spelllike abilities as an arcane caster of his CLvl, i.e. 3rd. Noble Drow Heritage gives him access to 2nd level spells as spell like abilities (only 2 or 3, but it counts) Three levels of cleric gives him 2nd level divine spells. His ECL +2 makes him a 5th APL Party member. Any better ideas? That's the best I can come up with from the offical books. [/QUOTE]

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