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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5055771" data-attributes="member: 82106">Sigh. Its hard to tell where your argument is going there DS. I understand that you were trying to execute an argument by reductio ad absurdum. I'm trying to tell you though that the example you used isn't necessarily relevant. The powers you mentioned are all cases of a condition in the power itself which (absurdly) would apply to its own resolution. The class feature the OP is referencing OTOH is a triggered effect external to the power in question.Step 5 deals with effects of the power. It doesn't apply to external triggered effects. The point is you haven't actually reduced the "triggered once" argument by reductio ad absurdum because it isn't applied in step 5. Exactly how triggered effects are applied is a bit of a grey area. I think we agree they apply immediately, but the question is then still do they apply immediately when step 5 finishes or do they apply in the midst of step 5 and thus potentially multiple times? This is where the point about Blood Pulse was relevant.Now maybe the OP's scenario isn't unbalanced. That in and of itself though isn't sufficient to base a decision on which is a fairly general decision about how a broad category of effects is applied to different powers. Some of those effects may well be unbalanced when applied multiple times. Unless we're given some official blanket rule to follow the DM is going to have to decide whether or not to interpret this stuff in a conservative way or a more liberal way and probably the key to that decision is whether or not it produces results that are in line with expected PC power levels.</blockquote>

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