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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5056735" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Blood Pulse was then errata'd because you can have an effect trigger multiple times from the same action.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, the triggered feature in question is of the 'When X, do Y' variety. As already shown by triggered feats such as Astral Fire, the Y part is done immediately, and often applies to the very triggering thing itself.</p><p></p><p>If it had to occur after, conditional bonuses like Astral Fire, and Heavy Blade Opportunity simply could not work. But, don't they work?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, as I said before... let's say you're a Starlock. If you use an AoE to kill multiple marked minions, your Fate of the Void boon triggers for each minion, multiple times. This proves you can have a single 'Step 5' trigger the same triggered effect multiple times.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter then if the trigger is resolved during or after the effect, what IS important is if it is triggered multiple times.</p><p></p><p>Push and prone are distinct things. A push is not knocking something prone, and vice versa. Which means that if a power pushes and knocks something prone, it'll trigger things that trigger on pushes once and things that trigger on knocking prone once.</p><p></p><p>If an effect triggers on either case, then it would trigger twice. It's already proven a single 'step 5' can trigger the same thing multiple times. And push and prone are different things.</p><p></p><p>So... does it work by the rules set given, with other precidents backing it up? Yes.</p><p>Is it broken? Like -actually- broken, not 'oh god it's a trick that works in the players favor' broken? No.</p><p></p><p>So... there is no problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5056735, member: 71571"] Blood Pulse was then errata'd because you can have an effect trigger multiple times from the same action. Regardless, the triggered feature in question is of the 'When X, do Y' variety. As already shown by triggered feats such as Astral Fire, the Y part is done immediately, and often applies to the very triggering thing itself. If it had to occur after, conditional bonuses like Astral Fire, and Heavy Blade Opportunity simply could not work. But, don't they work? Well, as I said before... let's say you're a Starlock. If you use an AoE to kill multiple marked minions, your Fate of the Void boon triggers for each minion, multiple times. This proves you can have a single 'Step 5' trigger the same triggered effect multiple times. It doesn't matter then if the trigger is resolved during or after the effect, what IS important is if it is triggered multiple times. Push and prone are distinct things. A push is not knocking something prone, and vice versa. Which means that if a power pushes and knocks something prone, it'll trigger things that trigger on pushes once and things that trigger on knocking prone once. If an effect triggers on either case, then it would trigger twice. It's already proven a single 'step 5' can trigger the same thing multiple times. And push and prone are different things. So... does it work by the rules set given, with other precidents backing it up? Yes. Is it broken? Like -actually- broken, not 'oh god it's a trick that works in the players favor' broken? No. So... there is no problem. [/QUOTE]
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