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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Liquidsabre" data-source="post: 1679833" data-attributes="member: 15635">Right, as I said, no need. The crux of the discussion at the moment is the correct reading of the RAW for the two feats. I didn't want to confuse the issue with talk of balance. But since you ask...Never said he'd be broken, but perhaps we should take a closer look at this.But let's look at a comparison build, since none was provided.Human (Int 18, Wis 16)Cleric 3/Wizard 3/Mystic Theurge 5Relevant Feats: (2 of 5) Practiced Spellcaster (Cleric), Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard)Spells: An 8th level Wizard and Cleric (Highest spell level: 4th) with a caster level of 9th for both spellcasting.Cure Spells: (5+1/4+1/4+1/2+1) Cure Light Wounds, Cure Moderate Wounds, Cure Serious Wounds, Cure Critical Wounds.Human (Int 18, Wis 16)Wizard 11Relevant Feats: (2 of 6) Arcane Disciple, Spontaneous HealingSpells: A 11th level Wizard (Highest spell level: 6th).Cure Spells: (prepared or cast) Cure Light Wounds 1/day, Cure Moderate Wounds 1/day, Cure Serious Wounds 1/day, Cure Critical Wounds 1/day, Mass Cure Light Wounds 1/day, Heal 1/day (A total of which 3 cure spells may be cast spontaneously each day).Looks great to me (and balanced). Access to Heal 1/day (though it needs to be prepared) is nothing to scoff at, let alone having access to 6th level arcane spells. Sure, if I want to be a better healer (and a worse arcane caster) I should just take levels in Cleric, but isn’t that as it should be?Let’s look at the interpretation as others would have it:Human (Int 18, Wis 16)Wizard 11Relevant Feats: (2 of 6) Arcane Disciple, Spontaneous HealingSpells: A 11th level Wizard (Highest spell level: 6th).Cure Spells: (prepared) Cure Light Wounds 1/day, Cure Moderate Wounds 1/day, Cure Serious Wounds 1/day, Cure Critical Wounds 1/day, Mass Cure Light Wounds 1/day, Heal 1/day (A total of which 3 cure spells may be cast spontaneously each day).Looks almost the same except that instead of being able to cast Cure Critical Wounds only 1/day you can now cast CCW 3/day spontaneously and prepare it 1/day. That’s a considerably greater curative domain spell power than Arcane Disciple would care to place in the hands of an arcane caster. In fact, if you make a direct comparison to the Mystic Theurge above:Wizard 11: May use Cure Critical Wounds 4/day (3 cast, 1 prep)MT 5: May use Cure Critical Wounds 3/day (assuming healing domain has been selected).So by comparison, if the AD and SH feats are used this way, there really isn’t a reason to take levels in Cleric the MT-route as you have abundant (greater than the MT actually at higher spell levels) curative spells at your finger-tips. So, balance-wise, there’s another reason that this interpretation is not likely the correct one.</blockquote>

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