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<blockquote data-quote="waxtransient" data-source="post: 5680853" data-attributes="member: 6676267">In my session last night my level 6 Warden wanted to jump and grab an enemy that was hovering 4 squares above the square next to him.&nbsp; I told him that even though he had a high athletics, reaching that enemy with a standing jump would probably be nearly impossible.My group then pointed out that if he needed to run two squares to make the jump a running jump, he should just run in a circle until he got back to his spot and then make his running jump.I protested, saying that if characters were able to do that, then the only time a character would be forced to make a standing jump would be if they were somehow in a narrow, 1 square shaft.&nbsp; I told them their interpretation felt too gamey.However, my entire group insisted, so I capitulated.I don't really know any other 4e DM's, so my questions are these: per the RAW, can a PC even do the circle run thing to make a running jump in virtually all circumstances, and if this is technically legal per the RAW, does it feel gamey to anybody else, or am I just being a stick in the mud?Thanks!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="waxtransient, post: 5680853, member: 6676267"] In my session last night my level 6 Warden wanted to jump and grab an enemy that was hovering 4 squares above the square next to him. I told him that even though he had a high athletics, reaching that enemy with a standing jump would probably be nearly impossible. My group then pointed out that if he needed to run two squares to make the jump a running jump, he should just run in a circle until he got back to his spot and then make his running jump. I protested, saying that if characters were able to do that, then the only time a character would be forced to make a standing jump would be if they were somehow in a narrow, 1 square shaft. I told them their interpretation felt too gamey. However, my entire group insisted, so I capitulated. I don't really know any other 4e DM's, so my questions are these: per the RAW, can a PC even do the circle run thing to make a running jump in virtually all circumstances, and if this is technically legal per the RAW, does it feel gamey to anybody else, or am I just being a stick in the mud? Thanks! [/QUOTE]

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