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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 1116118" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>I don't know. That seems a little weird to me. Also I don't think the Enlarge/Reduce analogy works very well because Shrink Item can work quite differently. Here's a more extreme example- Shrink 5 gallons of alchemist's fire, change it to the cloth form then stuff it and seal it inside a potion bottle? (Or shove it down your hated enemies throat! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> ) End the spell via command word or Dispel it from a distance. Does it shatter the potion bottle? Ruling that you now have one potion bottles-worth of alchemist's fire seems a little wrong. (What happened to the other 4.9 gallons?)</p><p></p><p>Also Shrink Item is a 3rd level spell and so should have a bit more "oomph" than 1st level Enlarge/Reduce. I think the level of the spell is the main reason that spell doesn't make a gooey mess when someone is enlarged inside a crawlway.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I tend to lean towards a more dramatic unshrinking because of the description for the Glove of Storing. </p><p>From the 3.5 SRD...</p><p> (emphasis my own) Now granted that's a magic item and obviously has some different characteristics from the spell in it's prereqs (The stasis and too small to be seen bits especially. Interesting the boost in power you get by just making an item. :wink: ) but it's the only official guidance on how quickly something unshrinks- instantly!</p><p></p><p>But all this just may be my bias towards the cool gadgets one could make exploiting this effect. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> (And that might make some lean towards nerfing the idea on that basis alone. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ) So does anybody else have any opinions on how the Shrink Items spell works? I'd really appreciate some of those awesome ENWorld insights!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 1116118, member: 1356"] I don't know. That seems a little weird to me. Also I don't think the Enlarge/Reduce analogy works very well because Shrink Item can work quite differently. Here's a more extreme example- Shrink 5 gallons of alchemist's fire, change it to the cloth form then stuff it and seal it inside a potion bottle? (Or shove it down your hated enemies throat! :eek: ) End the spell via command word or Dispel it from a distance. Does it shatter the potion bottle? Ruling that you now have one potion bottles-worth of alchemist's fire seems a little wrong. (What happened to the other 4.9 gallons?) Also Shrink Item is a 3rd level spell and so should have a bit more "oomph" than 1st level Enlarge/Reduce. I think the level of the spell is the main reason that spell doesn't make a gooey mess when someone is enlarged inside a crawlway. Finally, I tend to lean towards a more dramatic unshrinking because of the description for the Glove of Storing. From the 3.5 SRD... (emphasis my own) Now granted that's a magic item and obviously has some different characteristics from the spell in it's prereqs (The stasis and too small to be seen bits especially. Interesting the boost in power you get by just making an item. :wink: ) but it's the only official guidance on how quickly something unshrinks- instantly! But all this just may be my bias towards the cool gadgets one could make exploiting this effect. :D (And that might make some lean towards nerfing the idea on that basis alone. :p ) So does anybody else have any opinions on how the Shrink Items spell works? I'd really appreciate some of those awesome ENWorld insights! [/QUOTE]
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