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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1312643" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>The 3E FAQ answer on Whirlwind Attack and Cleave doesn't apply because <em>Whirlwind Attack</em> has changed.</p><p></p><p>Neither True Strike nor Cleave have changed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can Charge someone with your lance, and if you drop him, Cleave someone ten feet <em>behind</em> your horse (relative to the line of the Charge).</p><p></p><p>But the charge bonus is one of the more hotly-debated conditional modifiers in this case. What about the Bane weapon, the Smite Evil, the Higher Ground modifier, or the Flanking bonus?</p><p></p><p>Does an Orcbane weapon retain its +2 bonus if you Cleave from an orc into an elf? Does a Paladin retain his bonus if he Smite Evils a demon and Cleaves into a celestial? Can you gain a Higher Ground bonus against someone who's on higher ground than you are? Can you gain a flanking bonus against someone you aren't flanking?</p><p></p><p>If you're invisible, and you drop someone (with a +2 bonus for being invisible) - and the attack terminates the spell, making you visible - do you get that +2 invisible attacker bonus on your Cleave attack? If so, do you also deny them their Dex bonus, since that's an effect of being an invisible attacker? And if so, are they subject to sneak attack?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1312643, member: 1656"] The 3E FAQ answer on Whirlwind Attack and Cleave doesn't apply because [i]Whirlwind Attack[/i] has changed. Neither True Strike nor Cleave have changed. See above. You can Charge someone with your lance, and if you drop him, Cleave someone ten feet [i]behind[/i] your horse (relative to the line of the Charge). But the charge bonus is one of the more hotly-debated conditional modifiers in this case. What about the Bane weapon, the Smite Evil, the Higher Ground modifier, or the Flanking bonus? Does an Orcbane weapon retain its +2 bonus if you Cleave from an orc into an elf? Does a Paladin retain his bonus if he Smite Evils a demon and Cleaves into a celestial? Can you gain a Higher Ground bonus against someone who's on higher ground than you are? Can you gain a flanking bonus against someone you aren't flanking? If you're invisible, and you drop someone (with a +2 bonus for being invisible) - and the attack terminates the spell, making you visible - do you get that +2 invisible attacker bonus on your Cleave attack? If so, do you also deny them their Dex bonus, since that's an effect of being an invisible attacker? And if so, are they subject to sneak attack? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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