Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4370499" data-attributes="member: 1656">You can't move through a square without moving into it along the way!Why not?If someone can walk into a square by taking a double move, it's not a square they can't walk into.It's required that they be able to walk into the square, and the ability ignores difficult terrain, so the ability ignores difficult terrain while determining if they can walk into the square.Actually, I'm not convinced that oozes or flying creatures can't walk, in the sense of 'take the walk action'.&nbsp; A flying creature can't shift, but it can 'walk' or 'run' while using its fly speed.Enemies are not objects, nor obstacles.&nbsp; But they prevent a creature from being able to walk into their space, and thus prevent forced movement.Oh, I'm making no judgement as to that!&nbsp; Just the legality.No, Wall of Fire is not a power that affects targets.&nbsp; It affects creatures in its area, and creatures adjacent to its area, but the power has no target entry.Stinking Cloud affects targets - &quot;Targt: Each creature in burst&quot;.Not at all.&nbsp; The Stinking Cloud power is an area attack that affects multiple targets, whether or not there are any targets when any given instance of Stinking Cloud is created.&nbsp; The Wall of Fire power is an area attack that creates an obstacle.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4370499, member: 1656"] You can't move through a square without moving into it along the way! Why not? If someone can walk into a square by taking a double move, it's not a square they can't walk into. It's required that they be able to walk into the square, and the ability ignores difficult terrain, so the ability ignores difficult terrain while determining if they can walk into the square. Actually, I'm not convinced that oozes or flying creatures can't walk, in the sense of 'take the walk action'. A flying creature can't shift, but it can 'walk' or 'run' while using its fly speed. Enemies are not objects, nor obstacles. But they prevent a creature from being able to walk into their space, and thus prevent forced movement. Oh, I'm making no judgement as to that! Just the legality. No, Wall of Fire is not a power that affects targets. It affects creatures in its area, and creatures adjacent to its area, but the power has no target entry. Stinking Cloud affects targets - "Targt: Each creature in burst". Not at all. The Stinking Cloud power is an area attack that affects multiple targets, whether or not there are any targets when any given instance of Stinking Cloud is created. The Wall of Fire power is an area attack that creates an obstacle. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

Verification