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<blockquote data-quote="spunky_mutters" data-source="post: 341235" data-attributes="member: 5426"><p>I have to disagree with your base assumption that you can compare the classes by breaking it all down into a composite points cost. </p><p></p><p>Wizards get less spells to cast than Sorcerer, because they get spells earlier, and have a greater selection of spells. Getting stuck with spells can be a big problem for sorcerers. That and having metamagic take a full round reduces their utility in comparision to the wizard as the levels rise. At 20th, the advantage of getting spells earlier is nil, but the wizards have their metagmagic advantage, and sorcerers have cast-at-will.</p><p></p><p>As far as psions:</p><p></p><p>- Overcasting reduces the effectiveness of the Sorcerer. They are spending spell slots just to cast a spell. Psions don't have to do that. </p><p></p><p>- I agree that the point of having one table for spell bonuses was to get everybody on the same page, but if you've got a point buy system, it can't possible compare to the tiered spell bonus system on a 1-1 basis. There will always be an advantage to being able to spend your high-level points to cast lower level power multiple times. </p><p></p><p>There are a lot of other things that need to be considered as well, but my daughter just woke up from her nap.</p><p></p><p>As I said earlier, I'd be interested to see what you come up with, and hear how it goes in play. I wasn't saying don't try it, just that I would err on the side of caution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spunky_mutters, post: 341235, member: 5426"] I have to disagree with your base assumption that you can compare the classes by breaking it all down into a composite points cost. Wizards get less spells to cast than Sorcerer, because they get spells earlier, and have a greater selection of spells. Getting stuck with spells can be a big problem for sorcerers. That and having metamagic take a full round reduces their utility in comparision to the wizard as the levels rise. At 20th, the advantage of getting spells earlier is nil, but the wizards have their metagmagic advantage, and sorcerers have cast-at-will. As far as psions: - Overcasting reduces the effectiveness of the Sorcerer. They are spending spell slots just to cast a spell. Psions don't have to do that. - I agree that the point of having one table for spell bonuses was to get everybody on the same page, but if you've got a point buy system, it can't possible compare to the tiered spell bonus system on a 1-1 basis. There will always be an advantage to being able to spend your high-level points to cast lower level power multiple times. There are a lot of other things that need to be considered as well, but my daughter just woke up from her nap. As I said earlier, I'd be interested to see what you come up with, and hear how it goes in play. I wasn't saying don't try it, just that I would err on the side of caution. [/QUOTE]
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