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<blockquote data-quote="Eternalknight" data-source="post: 186385" data-attributes="member: 1075"><p><span style="color: gold">Hmmm....</span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">"A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individual first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions". <em>Players Handbook</em></span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">Ok, so from that we can deduce that, as Ealli stated, he is a loose cannon. He really doesn't care what others think, so he wouldn't care what anyone thought about him killing the hobgoblin children. 'If others thought it was evil, well who cares? I did what I wanted too.'</span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">'He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom'. So, killing the children because they may one day grow up to do evil acts isn't a good enough reason for this character, as he really wouldn't care (this is confirmed later in that paragraph too: "...does not intentionally disrupt organiziations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer))".</span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">So if the elf killed them 'because I wanted too' then his alignment seems to be justified. If he did it out of a desire to kill because they are different, then he should be Chaotic Evil. If it was, as many people have stated, because they will one day grow up to be evil, then he should be Chaotic Good. </span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">Now, to quote myself, "If he did it out of a desire to kill because they are different, then he should be Chaotic Evil." The druid could be deemed as being different, as he wouldn't help fight in some situations. </span></p><p><span style="color: gold"></span></p><p><span style="color: gold">Reading everyones arguments (including my own) has really only given me one idea: this is a very grey area. I think I have found a solution though. If none of the players are against it (and believe me, the majority are I think, although they let the elf his way most of the time), then a nasty hobgoblin ambush might be on the way the next time the PC's venture to the caves. To me, thinking as the Hobgoblins, the murder of their children would be considered an evil act by them, just as the murder of human children by hobgoblins would be considered an evil act by humans. Time to make the elf think about his actions I think. Make him see that the actions he takes have consequences.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eternalknight, post: 186385, member: 1075"] [COLOR=gold]Hmmm.... "A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individual first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions". [i]Players Handbook[/i] Ok, so from that we can deduce that, as Ealli stated, he is a loose cannon. He really doesn't care what others think, so he wouldn't care what anyone thought about him killing the hobgoblin children. 'If others thought it was evil, well who cares? I did what I wanted too.' 'He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom'. So, killing the children because they may one day grow up to do evil acts isn't a good enough reason for this character, as he really wouldn't care (this is confirmed later in that paragraph too: "...does not intentionally disrupt organiziations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer))". So if the elf killed them 'because I wanted too' then his alignment seems to be justified. If he did it out of a desire to kill because they are different, then he should be Chaotic Evil. If it was, as many people have stated, because they will one day grow up to be evil, then he should be Chaotic Good. Now, to quote myself, "If he did it out of a desire to kill because they are different, then he should be Chaotic Evil." The druid could be deemed as being different, as he wouldn't help fight in some situations. Reading everyones arguments (including my own) has really only given me one idea: this is a very grey area. I think I have found a solution though. If none of the players are against it (and believe me, the majority are I think, although they let the elf his way most of the time), then a nasty hobgoblin ambush might be on the way the next time the PC's venture to the caves. To me, thinking as the Hobgoblins, the murder of their children would be considered an evil act by them, just as the murder of human children by hobgoblins would be considered an evil act by humans. Time to make the elf think about his actions I think. Make him see that the actions he takes have consequences.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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