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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 405400" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p><strong>Re: Cavalier Attitudes About Torture and Mutilation</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting. In my observation, it's increasingly uncommon for people to actually believe in good and evil IRL. It shouldn't really be unexpected for that to carry over into gaming.</p><p></p><p>As to the exectution of prisoners and the Geneva convention/the testimony of the tradition of Western Law, you're repeating a common misconception. The following is from military historian Victor Davis Hansen's pieces on terrorism from about six months ago: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a reason that the Geneva Convention technically applies only to its signatories and even then requires legitimate military combatants to wear uniforms and not to hide among civilian populations. In D&D villains typically fall under the category of latrunculi who do actually hide among civilian populations and do not wear uniforms (to identify them as combatants). As such, according to most historical rules of law, they would actually be subject to summary execution.</p><p></p><p>Of course, this does not regard torture at all but I've found that most of my DMs' bad guys have been more than willing to spill their guts when it's made clear to them that the just punishment for their actions is death and that their execution is scheduled for 30 seconds from now unless they decide to cooperate. Zone of Truth, Detect Thoughts, and Detect Lies come in quite handy for corroberating the facts in such instances. Heck, in a society where Marks of Justice are common things, a simple Arcane Mark can work as a low level substitute <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 405400, member: 3146"] [b]Re: Cavalier Attitudes About Torture and Mutilation[/b] Interesting. In my observation, it's increasingly uncommon for people to actually believe in good and evil IRL. It shouldn't really be unexpected for that to carry over into gaming. As to the exectution of prisoners and the Geneva convention/the testimony of the tradition of Western Law, you're repeating a common misconception. The following is from military historian Victor Davis Hansen's pieces on terrorism from about six months ago: There is a reason that the Geneva Convention technically applies only to its signatories and even then requires legitimate military combatants to wear uniforms and not to hide among civilian populations. In D&D villains typically fall under the category of latrunculi who do actually hide among civilian populations and do not wear uniforms (to identify them as combatants). As such, according to most historical rules of law, they would actually be subject to summary execution. Of course, this does not regard torture at all but I've found that most of my DMs' bad guys have been more than willing to spill their guts when it's made clear to them that the just punishment for their actions is death and that their execution is scheduled for 30 seconds from now unless they decide to cooperate. Zone of Truth, Detect Thoughts, and Detect Lies come in quite handy for corroberating the facts in such instances. Heck, in a society where Marks of Justice are common things, a simple Arcane Mark can work as a low level substitute :) [/QUOTE]
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