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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7017195" data-attributes="member: 4937">The Elite array corresponds to a PC, built with 32 pt buy.  It isn't something on top of 32 pt buy, but an approximation of it.   Applying the elite array to something is like saying its as much superior to a normal member of its race as the PC's are to their race.  In effect, the Elite array has already been applied to PCs.  Applying the elite array, and then applying 32 pt buy is applying it twice.I would be hard pressed not to bodily throw the idiot from the room.  I've heard of some stupidity before, but this takes the cake.  Anyway, I would guess this to be roughly +2 LA (compare with other abusable templates like half-celestial), with the caveat that I do not believe there is any possible balance that result from using LA PC races other than +0.   They aren't balanced at either low level (when the reduced HD isn't worth the increased ability scores) or at high level (when the multiplicative advantages of increased ability scores more than make up for the missing HD).  It's a badly thought out system.</blockquote>