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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Philip" data-source="post: 1219613" data-attributes="member: 10993">Thanx PS! I am just not very good in remembering a lot of obscure rules,  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  so I always try to find some rationale or logic behind the rules. And this one appeared pretty solid.Sure. If you 'scribe' an enemy to death with your sword while astral, he still dead when you go back to your body. You just cannot take the scroll with you.If you are afraid of abuse you could rule that astrally projected items that are separated from the astral traveller start to disintegrate, becoming more and more translucent and vanishing into a few splashes of ectoplasm after a minute. I think Astral Spell should be abusable to some extent, its a 9th lvl spell after all. If 17th+ level mages want to sell fake astral equipment for a few hundred gold pieces, they should be allowed to.I don't think many multiversal shopkeepers will fork over thousands of gold pieces for an item unless they verified its authenticity. The buyer will be beware, he might not even deal with people he doesn't know, doesn't trust, or won't be subject to Zone's of Truth or the like. If you like playing hardball with your players, you could always have one of their prize items turn out to be astral, and the traveller just returned after home after a few years on the prime.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> The expendable items (scrolls) may pose a more serious problem. You could always choose to rule that expendable magic becomes inert when astrally projecting. Its still a scroll with nice sigils, only without the magic.</blockquote>

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