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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8385728" data-attributes="member: 86653">My suggestion would be to not do a straight conversion. You can search for Obsidian Skill Challenges. They're on here somewhere, I think. They work really well. Alternately, I'd suggest giving individual obstacles a number of successes they need to be overcome. Like a normal lock is one success, a really fancy lock is 2 successes, etc. Make a dynamic encounter/skill challenge by including various obstacles that require differing levels of successes and different skills to overcome. This is a spiritual rather than straight rules conversion. It's what I've been doing and works great. Also avoids worrying about converting mechanics that are based off different math from prior editions.For a straight conversion, it's fairly easy but I'm not sure you'd really want to do that. Especially with the DCs and the X successes before Y failures. The DCs obviously don't scale the same and there was a lot of analysis about the math behind X successes before Y failures being a really bad set up. Search the forum for that. I think I first saw it here.Level and DCs. The PCs bonuses go up at 4th (assumed ASI), 5th, 8th (assumed ASI), 9th, 13th, and 17th. You could start with the baseline DCs of 10, 15, 20 and simply give them a +1 at those points, keeping up with the PCs bonuses...but that puts PCs back on the treadmill of 4E. They have to get their stats high asap just to keep up with the assumed math. And this pushes them back into only using their proficient skills with high stats. You also get into punishing the rest of the group for the rogue/bard's expertise when you account for that benefit. Just let them have the easier time with their expertise skill(s). That's literally the point of it. I agree with Lyxen, the DCs should be straight out of the 5E DMG, not adjusted for level, proficiency, expertise, etc.Healing Surges are kinda Hit Dice...but really, really not the same. Their function is wildly different in 5E compared to 4E. You had to spend healing surges to heal almost every single time you got any healing in 4E. Healing that didn't cost you a surge was a really big deal in 4E. You don't have to do that with hit dice in 5E. So they're much less impactful when you lose one. They're barely a pacing mechanic to handle short rests during an adventuring day. In 5E you get one hit dice per level. In 4E you got healing surges equal 6-10 plus your Con mod...at first level...and that's it. They never went up...but as you leveled, and gained hit points, the amount they healed for went up (always 1/4 your max hp total). 4E's Levels to 5E's CR. 4E combat assumes one standard monster per person in a party of five...or one elite per two party members...or one solo monster per five party members...or four minions per party member...all roughly of equivalent level as the party. Traps, skill challenges, etc were used to simply replace some of those monsters (though mostly standard monsters). 5E combat assumes a party of four vs one monster of a CR equivalent to the party's level. So compare apples to apples. 5E party vs one monster and 4E party vs one monster. So a 4E solo monster's level is roughly the equivalent to a 5E monster's CR. I would just use milestones. It's so much easier.</blockquote>

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