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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 8386133" data-attributes="member: 6775477">Probably not what you want, but I've found that Group Checks are the new Skill Challenges. Everyone has to make a check, with a standard set of options. If a player has a suggestion for another ability or skill with an explanation of why it makes sense, I might allow that character to make that check (no duplicate non-standard checks). The DC is set by the normal rules (10+) and at least half the party must succeed. If multiple rounds are desired, you track each time the party succeeds or fails, with a desired number of successes required before a set number of failures.Consequences for failure really need to depend on the purpose of the challenge. If it's social, the party just doesn't get what they want. Exploration encounters might cost HD, HP, resources (food/water/equipment), depending on what it is. I was never very good at this part in 4E.I use Exploration and Social experience. The difficulty of the DC easily transitions to a encounter difficulty (easy, medium, hard, etc). I then grant xp based on the number of affected characters. Traps and such usually only affect a couple of characters, but social encounters affect everyone there. Encounters usually only provide xp on a success, but I usually give full xp for traps that the party fails, since it still costs them resources (I toy with only half xp if failed, but waffle).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 8386133, member: 6775477"] Probably not what you want, but I've found that Group Checks are the new Skill Challenges. Everyone has to make a check, with a standard set of options. If a player has a suggestion for another ability or skill with an explanation of why it makes sense, I might allow that character to make that check (no duplicate non-standard checks). The DC is set by the normal rules (10+) and at least half the party must succeed. If multiple rounds are desired, you track each time the party succeeds or fails, with a desired number of successes required before a set number of failures. Consequences for failure really need to depend on the purpose of the challenge. If it's social, the party just doesn't get what they want. Exploration encounters might cost HD, HP, resources (food/water/equipment), depending on what it is. I was never very good at this part in 4E. I use Exploration and Social experience. The difficulty of the DC easily transitions to a encounter difficulty (easy, medium, hard, etc). I then grant xp based on the number of affected characters. Traps and such usually only affect a couple of characters, but social encounters affect everyone there. Encounters usually only provide xp on a success, but I usually give full xp for traps that the party fails, since it still costs them resources (I toy with only half xp if failed, but waffle). [/QUOTE]

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