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<blockquote data-quote="Alduk" data-source="post: 1533277" data-attributes="member: 14260"><p>Yep, negative levels are still temporary in 3.5, and you have to make the Fort save to get rid of them after 24 hours, as I stated in the original message.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree that they would be raised at 1st level - the rogue in the example is still 7th level after all, she just accumulated 7 negative levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm... in fact, Speak with Dead points me the other way: it states that "If the creature's alignment was different from yours, the corpse gets a Will save to resist the spell <strong>as if it were alive.</strong>" To me, that means dead bodies usually don't get saves, and this one does just as a specific exception to the norm. Since no such exception is provided for Energy Drain, I'm inclined to say the Fort saves can't be made while the creature is dead.</p><p></p><p>If that's true, then the question becomes: do they get to make the saves only after being raised, or do they fail the saves automatically and all negative levels become drained levels (OUCH!) ? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whoa, neither would I. Once their negative levels equal their current levels, they're dead for good (or at least until resurected, anyway). It doesn't matter if they still have the negative levels or not.</p><p></p><p>After all, you don't let a corpse come back to life just because the sword has been pulled from his chest. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alduk, post: 1533277, member: 14260"] Yep, negative levels are still temporary in 3.5, and you have to make the Fort save to get rid of them after 24 hours, as I stated in the original message. I disagree that they would be raised at 1st level - the rogue in the example is still 7th level after all, she just accumulated 7 negative levels. Hmmm... in fact, Speak with Dead points me the other way: it states that "If the creature's alignment was different from yours, the corpse gets a Will save to resist the spell [b]as if it were alive.[/b]" To me, that means dead bodies usually don't get saves, and this one does just as a specific exception to the norm. Since no such exception is provided for Energy Drain, I'm inclined to say the Fort saves can't be made while the creature is dead. If that's true, then the question becomes: do they get to make the saves only after being raised, or do they fail the saves automatically and all negative levels become drained levels (OUCH!) ? Whoa, neither would I. Once their negative levels equal their current levels, they're dead for good (or at least until resurected, anyway). It doesn't matter if they still have the negative levels or not. After all, you don't let a corpse come back to life just because the sword has been pulled from his chest. :) [/QUOTE]
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