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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 20496" data-attributes="member: 994">Last week I summoned a Celestial Lion for a combat against some evil dog-creatures, including a Winter Wolf (I think).  I was confused starting the first combat round as to what to do with this creature.  The MM & SRD lists the following relevant info:Attacks:     2 claws +7 melee, bite +2 meleeDamage:    Claw 1d4+5, bite 1d8+2Special Attacks:Pounce (Ex): If a lion leaps upon a foe during the first round of combat, it can make a full attack even if it has already taken a move action.Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, the lion must hit with its bite attack. If it gets a hold, it can rake.Rake (Ex): A lion that gets a hold can make two rake attacks (+7 melee) with its hind legs for 1d4+2 damage each. If the lion pounces on an opponent, it can also rake.1)  I couldn't find any info in the rest of the Monster Manual then nor the SRD tonite on how a Pounce works.  Do you make a Jump roll?  Just say you're Pouncing?  Make a melee touch attack?  How does this work?2)  If you successfully Pounce you still get a full attack action that allows you to Rake.  Are the Rake attacks instead of or in addition to the 2 Claw and Bite attacks the Lion normally gets?  I want to say in addition to because the Rake attacks do less damage than the 2 Claw attacks normally allowed, but 5 attacks in one round seems a bit much for a CR 3 creature.3)  Please help me through a typical full attack action as I'm not sure which of the following is the real case.  Assuming you're next to your foe you get the 3 attacks listed as above.Option A - If the Bite hits you get to make an opposed Grapple check because of Improved Grab which, if successful, then allows you to do an additional two Rake attacks for a total of 5 attacks this round.Option B - If the Bite hits you get to make an opposed Grapple check because of Improved Grab, if successful you and your foe are considered Grappling.  Next round you may continue the Grapple, and if successful, do automatic Bite damage plus two Rake attacks.  Do you still get your 2 primary Claw attacks?!?Option C - Something totally different because I'm missing the big picture.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />Right now I'm voting C <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Sorry about my lack of clarity here but I'm really confused as to how these 3 Extraordinary abilities work with each other.  I've read the section on Improved Grab in the MM on pg. 9 (and understand you can't use it unless your opponent is at least one size smaller, but the Lion is large and my DM said the dogs were medium-sized) but can't find any other material on Pounce or Rake.Please help! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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