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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2819189" data-attributes="member: 1656">Interesting.  You can't use Combat Expertise with any of those options, either.Not if you're the same level, surely?Are you suggesting there should be a FMage base class, such that a 10th level FMage class fights as well as a 10th level Fighter and casts as well as a 10th level Wizard?I can see a 15th level FMage fighting as well as a 10th level Fighter and casting as well as a 10th level Wizard, but when the levels are equal, the specialists should be better than the generalists within their own speciality.Lythande might be a fighter and a mage, but if she beats a straight fighter in a non-magical fight, it's because she's several levels higher than he is.  If she outcasts a straight caster in a magical duel, it's because she's several levels higher than he is.  If she comes up against a caster who's been practising magic just as long, but who kept practising magic every time she did sword drills, he should be better than she is at casting!-Hyp.</blockquote>