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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 2819568" data-attributes="member: 7883">I think that's the difference between fantasy fiction, where the author isn't constrained by balance issues, and an RPG.Look at Wheel of Time.  Rand 'al Thor is a....what, 20 year old kid, who is a better fighter than all the fighters in the land, and a better channeler than the rest as well.Particularly in your 4-man party of D&D adventurers, you can't simulate that very well, because that would mean either one character is way more powerful than the other PCs, or he's not as powerful as he's supposed to be according to the fiction.In my original post, I was not trying to convey that I think a warrior-mage should be as good at either ability as a single-classed member of either class.  That's not what my concern abou the Duskblade was.  I specifically mentioned that they appear to have some very cool class abilities.  The spells were the issue.  But I hadn't seen the full spell list.  I'm more comfortable with the class now.  I'd still prefer a few more spells on that list....some to protect against magic, maybe a few more blasting spells, etc.  But I think overall it's pretty good...much better than my initial opinion.As to the statement that it doesn't make sense for them to have full BAB plus spells, let's not forget that a fighter doesn't just get full BAB.  He also gets d10's instead of d8's, he gets 11 bonus feats, and he gets weapon specialization.I think the Duskblade is more akin to the Ranger or Paladin than he is to the Fighter in any case.  He's got a full BAB, he has d8's, no specialization, he's got a few special abilities, and mid-range spellpower, topping out at lvl 5....though some of those lvl 5's are actually lvl 6 from the wizard list.Compare against a Paladin who gains d10's, 4 skill points, several special abilities, and lvl 4 spells, or a Ranger, who gets d8's, 6 skill points, several special abilities, and lvl 4 spells.The Duskblade might not fare too poorly in comparison at all.  I'll be taking another look tonight.The Beguiler actually seems pretty cool, and *that* I hadn't expected.Banshee</blockquote>

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